[Bf-funboard] Re: Daemon Integration

[Ton Roosendaal]

Hi,

It's a 'project' at our site already, but not much happens there.
I think the current admins/coders would welcome to have feedback and  
enthusiast reactions that this tool is truely appreciated.

http://projects.blender.org/projects/networkrender/

In my animation studio days, our deamon system was one of the most used  
tools, and essential to control work flow, and getting stuff ready for  
clients. It was irix-only though... porting was not succesful, since it  
relied on NFS too much.

The new system (made in NaN, by Hans) is much better technology, but  
only works on unix-geek level (console, commands). It lacks just this  
nice interface and some feedback-functionality that would make it  
really useful.

I suggest to everyone who's interested in it, to spam these project  
members, and get them to working again! :)

-Ton-


On Wednesday, Jun 18, 2003, at 14:29 Europe/Amsterdam, Paul Lunneberg  
wrote:

> My only concern with network rendering is I would love to have it  
> functional
> across the internet and not just my local network.  But as you said the
> default could be setup such that it would grab files off of a central
> machine on the local network. Maybe just make it possible to set an  
> FTP site
> and path to the source files as well as an output directory.  That  
> would
> take care of my requirements... then each job could potentially ftp the
> output files to different locations fairly easily.  You would still  
> have the
> scaling issue that you could potentially have a lot of systems  
> downloading
> the .blend files and textures every time... but obviously there would  
> have
> to be some sort of cache on the local system while a job is running as  
> well
> as a check each frame to see if it has the appropriate files.
>
> As for the daemon being seperate... That works fine... I believe  
> integrating
> them as far as interface is concerned would make things a lot easier  
> for
> people to setup.  Especially if the interface to configure them is kept
> simple and organized!
>
> Paul Lunneberg
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roland Hess" <rolandh@reed-witting.com>
> To: <bf-funboard@blender.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 6:20 AM
> Subject: [Bf-funboard] Re: Daemon Integration
>
>
>> Nice mockup. My initial thought is that it would be better in most
>> instances (i.e., you're only using this if you have a lot of
>> rendering to do) to have the source files for your artwork (.blends
>> and image maps) reside on a server. It could even be the main machine
>> that you're working from. But the point is, I think the client
>> machines should pull the .blend files and textures off of the server
>> machine, as opposed to the render manager pushing the data. Perhaps
>> another setting in the Client Settings section would be the network
>> path to the source data. Also, completed frames would be directed in
>> a similar fashion, instead of being returned to the render manager.
>>
>> Having the render manager perform these functions does not scale
>> well. If there are only two or three client machines, it's fine.
>> Let's say I get 20 PII's for $79 a piece and stick them in a closet
>> in my basement. I don't want each one having to wait for the render
>> manager to pump a 20 MB .blend file and 320 MB of textures (because
>> there's avi's used as textures) to each machine in sequence, and then
>> sit there and try to field the requests from all twenty machines as
>> they send back frames. Much more efficient to set a network path,
>> send the commands, then simply monitor the results.
>> --  
>> Roland Hess
>> harkyman
>
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