[Bf-education] Terminating the Certified Trainer program...
Ton Roosendaal
ton at blender.org
Wed Sep 25 10:38:51 CEST 2019
Hi,
There is a blender.today thread now too. But Pierre is wrong in his
observation.
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-Ton-
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Ton Roosendaal - ton at blender.org - www.blender.org
Chairman Blender Foundation, Director Blender Institute
Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
On 24/09/2019 14:03, Pierre Schiller wrote:
> Also, for all BFCT please consider taking this thread over to
> blender.chat, officially. No one is attending this mailing list,
> because they have to be first: approved, then confirmed by email then
> finally replying to the thread.
> Please consider taking this to blender.chat on Blender Today community.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 3:38 PM Pierre Schiller <3dcinetv at gmail.com
> <mailto:3dcinetv at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Ton. Thank you for making the marvelous software Blender is today.
>
> You mention BFCT status could potentially terminate. I would like
> to present some considerations before, please:
>
> BFCT has been enormous help for me as well as other trainers. Many
> studios will not hire or consider solutions from a hobbyist or a
> CG artists who is not directly endorsed with an official profile
> page like Blendernetwork.org has done with all BFCT professionals
> enrolled in it. The profile hits (page searches) alone should give
> a good *healthy report* on how often _top-industry jobs search for
> specialized Blender trainers/professionals_. Terminating the BFCT
> is cutting out the possibility for an already healthy community
> growing for the next wave in the 3D industry: *realtime graphics
> and VR operative interfaces* for 3D creation. Blender has taken
> the right steps towards the future implementing -even beyond
> implementing- other scientific and robotic areas surpassing 3D vfx
> and animation renders.
>
> I have been invited to many organizations to do _live workshops_
> because they trust that I have done a lot of Blender presentations
> online and offline driving the edge of techniques and tools from
> version 2.79 onwards , endorsed by *being BFCT*. It required me to
> give _straight answer to deep technical problems_ on studios using
> Blender or implementing solutions on their own pipelines with
> other proprietary software and so their trust is confirmed on how
> the certified trainers are endorsed by the Blender Foundation,
> thus bringing prestige and confidence using the software.
>
> I have been given the opportunity to work with such venturous
> software developers exploring creativity and seeing Blender has
> stand the tests, addons and new implementations, thus *giving
> these 3d industry-professionals confidence when they work along
> side a BFCT*. I can only speak for my cases, but I´m mostly sure
> many others will be in this position through out the world as
> certified trainers.
>
> Training studios has been my main goal, and BFCT helped me through
> these years to walk in those presentations and be aware to what
> the Blender Foundation was doing in progress of Blender and
> communicate that clearly with expectations met from everyone in
> the room.
>
> Without BFCT certification, anyone stands with under qualified
> users in many areas _not knowing what representation Blender would
> officially have to showcase as a solution_ for a*studio pipeline
> or creatively using it for new break through* artistic styles for
> movies, games or commercial advertisement...
>
> Having 20+ years in the advertisement industry, terminating the
> BFCT would rather hurt the solid commitment that all BFCT pursue:
> *The efficient implementation of Blender for studio production
> across all platforms and media.*
>
> This is my line of work and I would love to know more information
> to re-apply for Blender 2.81 BFCT whenever possible.
>
> /Ultimately, there should be "specialized" training like the
> Blender Foundation was offering back in March 2018. For example:
> "Migrating from 3DsMax to Blender", "Using Particles for physics
> simulations", among others; and have those programs expand upon
> review from the BFCT applicant. This is a way to search for
> specialized trainer, rather than an average 3d generalist./
>
> /The BFCT applicant submits his specialized trainer program and
> the Blender Foundation evaluates the trainer and his program to
> emit official certification./
> This is my proposal.
>
> Thank you for your attention.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> David Rivera.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 3:01 PM Carlos Santana
> <csantanad at gmail.com <mailto:csantanad at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello there
>
> I have been for many years outspoken about the fact that
> certifications should be extremely more widely available than
> they are right now
>
> Like any other certification from CCNA to brain surgeon, the
> important thing it to licence to institutions, not
> individuals, it is then the institutions turn to uphold the
> quality of the certifiable persons acumen in the field.
>
> Under this scheme, Blender foundation remains the sole giver
> of certifications, but it does so to accredited institutes and
> universities, not individuals.
>
> I have already gone all the way to Amsterdam and talked with a
> few of the people involved in the main teachers effort, and
> have already laid out a plan of action to implement such a
> scheme in the light of the actual CG-FX-Studio interest in the
> talent Blender attracts.
>
> I could turn this into a solid certification path that is
> direly required in order to keep lowering barrier for the
> large scale adoption of blender in the other visual fields not
> related to the entertainment industry.
>
> In turn the entertainment industry sure wold love it if we
> gave them some tools to remove the guesswork out of hiring
> Blender bound talent.
>
> There is an alternative, are there people willing to accept it
> has been my question in the last 7 or so years
>
> Regards,
> Carlos
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 1:07 PM Chris Mcfall
> <chris at unitedfilmdom.com <mailto:chris at unitedfilmdom.com>> wrote:
>
> Personally i always found the blender certification gave
> clients, particularly universities confidence in hiring me.
>
> In a community like blenders where there are far more
> beginner level users than experienced professionals
> (particularly ones capable of imparting training in a
> digestible manner) a certification needs to exist, or
> institutions looking for training are going to wind up
> disillusioned hiring under-experienced users who
> misrepresent blenders capability’s and this may negatively
> impact the uptake of institutions and pro studios. As
> someone who has taught blender at a number of prestigious
> universities, schools, and professional institutions. I
> believe a tier of quality trainers for blender is
> invaluable. Perhaps charging for the certification again
> and using that fee to manage pay for the infrastructure
> would be worth while.
>
> On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 18:32, Gossett, Evalyn J
> <egossett at iun.edu <mailto:egossett at iun.edu>> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone
>
> Thank you for the update.
> I need training maybe not certification.
>
> Thank you
>
> Evalyn J. Gossett
> DNP, RN
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 23, 2019, at 12:04 PM, Ton Roosendaal
> <ton at blender.org <mailto:ton at blender.org>> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> The certified trainer program is dwindling and
>> doesn't get much attention nor enthusiasm from
>> trainers really.
>> This email is to open the discussion on stopping with
>> the certification program, and to provide an alternative.
>>
>> https://www.blender.org/certification/
>>
>> We installed the certification program in 2007 on
>> popular request, provided that:
>>
>> - there would be a clear process in place to validate
>> trainers
>> - it would be managed well, preferably by trainers
>> themselves.
>>
>> I always had mixed feelings about providing official
>> certification. A certificate's value is fully
>> determined by the quality of the validation procedure
>> and to have a decent examination process. The process
>> we had in place for validating trainers was very
>> minimal.
>>
>> Yet we accepted to do this, because in 2007 many
>> trainers said it would help them to get in business.
>> Their clients or universities demanded that.
>> Unfortunately that has been true for very few people
>> only.
>>
>> Currently there are only 12 active certifications.
>>
>> I propose to stop with certification now. Not only
>> because of lack of interest, lack of quality in the
>> program, but especially because it does not support
>> the Blender Foundation's goal - which is about
>> supporting projects on blender.org
>> <http://blender.org> related to making Blender.
>>
>> What I then rather do instead is to re-activate this
>> mailing list, and discuss with educators what Blender
>> Foundation can do to help everyone here better. For
>> example with a section on blender.org
>> <http://blender.org> where educators and trainers can
>> meet and exchange useful information and share or
>> download training material. The Blender Foundation
>> could add also add staff efforts to coordinate this.
>>
>> I know this mailing list hasn't been very active.
>> Hope the mail arrives, and I'm curious to read your
>> reactions.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Ton-
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>> <http://www.blender.org>
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