[Bf-education] Bf-education Digest, Vol 150, Issue 1
John Blain
silverjb12 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 25 19:37:10 CEST 2018
*Interesting discussion regarding teaching Blender 2.80*
I am not a teacher but I do not see Blender 2.80 being any greater a
challenge for new users than pre 2.49 or post 2.50. Given measured
instruction a new user will accept the interface and the new workflow as
presented and become familiar with its features. On the other hand tutors
and semi experienced user may encounter some frustration since they will be
comparing the new with the old. It will require enthusiastic instruction
from the tutor and perseverance from the student which has always been the
case.
Blender 2.80 is shaping up to be a fantastic bit of gear making it an
exciting new tool despite a few bugs which will quickly disappear.
John Blain (Author) 'The Complete Guide to Blender Graphics'.
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 19:12, Peter Kemp <peterejkemp at gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have any thoughts on how suited 2.8 is for new learners?
>
> My thoughts are here:
> https://mobile.twitter.com/peterejkemp/status/1050360844343750656
>
> If we got an accessible default setup there would be no need for a 101
> version.
>
> Pete
>
> On Tuesday, 23 October 2018, <bf-education-request at blender.org> wrote:
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>> 1. Re: education meeting at bconf (Pierre Schiller)
>> 2. Re: education meeting at bconf (rik van nielen)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 08:21:57 -0500
>> From: Pierre Schiller <3dcinetv at gmail.com>
>> To: Blender Educators and Trainers <bf-education at blender.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Bf-education] education meeting at bconf
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>> Intetesting approach as you mention 2.8 is not stable yet. -Not completed-
>> would be a more suitable word at this point. But I find that 2.8 is
>> actually predictable in what can or cannot be used when following the
>> developer's log.
>>
>> Just as it is a turn off to teach when something fails and crashes on 2.8,
>> it is also exciting to work and teach when a feature is prominent, new and
>> stable.
>>
>> So at the moment I am teaching grease pencil and sculpting on 2.8 with
>> enjoyable sucess.
>>
>> Challenges? The incongruence of the keyboard layout. Legacy keboard layout
>> from 2.79 on 2.8 will not solve this as easily as the devs thought
>> because,
>> it is a complete new mind set applied to workflow.
>>
>> Blender 2.8 coming up approximatedly on Feb 2019. So, we are getting
>> closer.
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>> David Rivera.
>> Blender Foundation Official Trainer
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 04:52 Tiffany, Robert L., Mr., CIV,
>> OSD/DoDEA-Europe <
>> Robert.Tiffany at eu.dodea.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > Cool - I have been teaching the game engine side of blender for about 10
>> > years - just love what it offers the students. I was sorry to see it be
>> > removed from the main Blender program but happy that someone picked it
>> up
>> > and ran with it (so we don't have to always use older versions).
>> >
>> > Are these virtual conferences or is this the big Blender conference?? I
>> > am good to go virtually, but currently reside in Italy, so travel is
>> > minimal here.
>> >
>> > Thanks again for your continued support of the product - very cool
>> software
>> >
>> > Sincerely
>> >
>> > Robert Tiffany
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Bf-education [mailto:bf-education-bounces at blender.org] On Behalf
>> Of
>> > Monique Dewanchand
>> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 11:40 AM
>> > To: Blender Educators and Trainers <bf-education at blender.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Bf-education] education meeting at bconf
>> >
>> > For the past 2 years Peter Kemp and I, Blender teachers, have been
>> > organizing education meetings at the Blender Conference. The goal is to
>> > discuss Blender education; challenges, concerns, materials, blender101
>> > development, education programs or share best practices. It's an open
>> > discussion, anyone can join and bring in a subject as long as it is
>> related
>> > to Blender and education.
>> >
>> > Rgds,
>> > Monique
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:36 AM Tiffany, Robert L., Mr., CIV,
>> > OSD/DoDEA-Europe <Robert.Tiffany at eu.dodea.edu <mailto:
>> > Robert.Tiffany at eu.dodea.edu> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > What is this?? I teach Blender (game engine) for High School
>> ...
>> > curious as to what all of this (below) is??
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Robert Tiffany
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Bf-education [mailto:bf-education-bounces at blender.org
>> > <mailto:bf-education-bounces at blender.org> ] On Behalf Of Monique
>> > Dewanchand
>> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 10:17 AM
>> > To: Blender Educators and Trainers <bf-education at blender.org
>> > <mailto:bf-education at blender.org> >
>> > Subject: [Bf-education] education meeting at bconf
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > This Thursday is the start of the Blender Conference 2018. I've
>> > scheduled an education meeting on Friday to discuss Blender education in
>> > universities and pre-universities.
>> >
>> > With blender 2.8 coming there is lots to discuss. What
>> challenges
>> > does blender 2.8 bring when teaching Blender to (young) students?
>> >
>> > I would like to hear from you. And perhaps we can discuss your
>> > concerns or feedback at the education meeting.
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> > Monique
>> > -- At Mind --
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>> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 20:45:17 +0200
>> From: rik van nielen <rik at oicretail.com>
>> To: Blender Educators and Trainers <bf-education at blender.org>
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>> Hi Monique,
>>
>> I am teaching Blender to primary kids aged 7-8-9 at an international
>> school in Geneva
>> At that age students have little to no experience with interfaces; all is
>> done with keyboard shortcuts.
>> though limited in modelling they are picking up very fast with sculpting
>> The rationale is that at this age the mind is open to any construction no
>> matter how complex
>>
>> being exposed to modelling/sculpting at a young age helps them to develop
>> their mental model and orientation skills
>> we hope they will continue this at middle and high school before phone
>> and tablet interfaces will spoil them
>>
>> let me know if there are other teachers out there with experience to
>> working with very young kids
>>
>> we are curious to see if 2.8 will add to sculpting
>> some default settings are not set for out of the box working if we could
>> change those
>> or create a kid default version we would be more than happy
>>
>> keep us posted
>>
>> Rik van Nielen
>>
>>
>> > On 22 Oct 2018, at 10:16, Monique Dewanchand <m.dewanchand at atmind.nl>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > This Thursday is the start of the Blender Conference 2018. I've
>> scheduled an education meeting on Friday to discuss Blender education in
>> universities and pre-universities.
>> >
>> > With blender 2.8 coming there is lots to discuss. What challenges does
>> blender 2.8 bring when teaching Blender to (young) students?
>> >
>> > I would like to hear from you. And perhaps we can discuss your concerns
>> or feedback at the education meeting.
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> > Monique
>> > -- At Mind --
>> > -- b3d101.org <http://b3d101.org/> --
>> > -- crowdsim3d --
>> > _______________________________________________
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