[Bf-education] Bf-education Digest, Vol 96, Issue 17
seonyatseng morapedi
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Fri Dec 6 17:45:51 CET 2013
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>I love the idea but i am new to blender and love it.thanks but i would love to learn more.
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>> 3. Re: Bf-education Digest, Vol 96, Issue 15 (Peter Romero, M.Ed.)
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>>Message: 1
>>Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 06:33:16 -0500
>>From: avi dey <adtwinonline at gmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Dance Animation Using Blender Plus
>> Featured Video Projects
>>To: Marcelo V <mv_email at yahoo.com>
>>Cc: Blender Educators and Trainers <bf-education at blender.org>
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>> December 6, 2013
>>
>>Topic: Dance Animation 3D Tools Demo
>>(Softkinetic ISSU & Blender 3D Artists)
>>
>>Hi Marcello,
>>
>>Your Comment: I may be completely wrong but let me proceed anyways:
>>
>>Converration: you need better familiarity with what is "successful"
>>technology such as
>>Softkinetic issu powered a most popular dance animation game. You just
>>don't know
>>yet, until you try to accomplish what Sofkinetic ISSU can do.
>>
>>It's a "depth and movement sensing" features that gives the 3D effect and
>>it's a popular 3D with game developers in the mass entertainment world.
>>
>>Secondly, It does have something to do with Blender 3D as I have pointed
>>out before. Only one Japanese blender skilled person has used Blender to to
>>Dance Animation. I have given you the example.
>>
>>Let's do more and experiment and buid examples rather than focus on talking
>>among strangers that boggs down to "blind leading the blind".
>>
>>A 'spirit of experimentation" and virtual teaming protocol is what is
>>needed, both in this particular application of Dance Animation, both for
>>Blender 3D Dance Animation and Softkinetic ISSU.
>>
>>If ISSU can do this better, and at an affordable cost without complexity,
>>then that's the preferred route. But it helps to have more people familiar
>>with how to do dance animation with Blender 3D tool.
>>
>>I know it can be done, and has been done by the example I provided earlier.
>>
>>Avi Dey
>>Principal Investigator (PI)
>>
>> Heritage Dance 3D Gesture Tools
>>Music Video Game Indie Guild
>>at Fairfax VA Community Forum
>>(Softkinetic ISSU & Blender Artists Circle)
>>
>>On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Marcelo V <mv_email at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Avi,
>>>
>>> I did not make any research about the subject but I will comment the video
>>> based on my observations.
>>> I may be completely wrong but let me proceed anyways:
>>>
>>> The dancers are not 3D models. They are real people with dancing with a
>>> green screen on background.
>>> The image is being mixed and filters for increasing saturation and
>>> contrast.
>>>
>>> Each dancer wears a glove with pre-selected/known colors where the
>>> position are being tracked. The SW processing the image compare the hands
>>> position against a pattern in the time domain to give a rate
>>> (Good/Bad/etc). I would even bet that if you only place the hands in the
>>> right place you may get a "Good" from your virtual instructor even without
>>> following the dance.
>>>
>>> I do not see any relation of this image processing with Blender. Blender
>>> could be used for modeling better virtual instructor but this would be done
>>> in development time, not in real time.
>>>
>>> Anyways... I do not see any way Blender could be used to implement this in
>>> real time.
>>> Suggestion... take a look at OpenCV and other libraries to help you with
>>> image processing and a game engine tool or even OpenGL to perform what you
>>> need in real time.
>>>
>>> Have fun,
>>> Marcelo
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* avi dey <adtwinonline at gmail.com>
>>> *To:* Bf-education at blender.org
>>> *Cc:* Piotr Arlukowicz <piotao at gmail.com>; Marcelo V <mv_email at yahoo.com>;
>>> Zach Kurth-Nelson <zach.kurthnelson at gmail.com>; Carol Gaylor <
>>> cgaylor at sgia.org>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:27:50 PM
>>> *Subject:* Dance Animation Using Blender Plus Featured Video Projects
>>>
>>>
>>> December 05, 2013
>>>
>>> *Dance Animation Using Blender Plus Featured Video Projects*
>>>
>>> Current Topic: I am now looking deeper into Dance 3D Animation Popular
>>> Tool. There is one such tool stands out based on my brief search today
>>> as to what is popular among dance animation.
>>>
>>> One of the most successful companies in 3D Dance Animation music video
>>> games is Ubisoft . T
>>>
>>> heir Just Dance 3D Game Series uses the Dance Animation Software Engine
>>> so called *3D Gesture Recognition Middleware by a company located in
>>> Belgium . Their popular 3D tool is called SoftKinetic iisu*
>>>
>>> Below is a sample of what Softkinetic issu powered a most popular dance
>>> animation game that I just found in utube.
>>>
>>> Jailhouse Rock by Ubisoft (Elvis Presley Classic)
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiy7n0PbxbA
>>>
>>> Question: The "Learning Curve" for doing something like this using
>>> blender 3D is likely far more difficult than getting access to Softkinetic
>>> IISU.
>>>
>>> This is the topic I hope to be able to discuss in a forum for those who
>>> have a serious interest in non-commercial heritage music that are still
>>> popular in countries like Poland, Canada and the "Cowboy Rock" From Texas,
>>> USA, that has a link to heritage and cultures that grew up in America in
>>> the last 200 years.
>>>
>>> Comments anyone ?
>>>
>>> Avi Dey
>>>
>>> Culture is the process by which a person becomes all that they were
>>> created capable of being.<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomascarl156185.html>
>>>
>>> Thomas Carlyle<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/thomas_carlyle.html>
>>> Previous Topic:
>>>
>>> Blender Guru
>>> Dance Animation Using Blender
>>>
>>> http://www.blenderguru.com/27-inspiring-blender-animations-that-will-make-your-jaw-drop/
>>>
>>> 26. HapiLoli
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>Message: 2
>>Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 08:54:19 -0300
>>From: "Lula Borges Hot" <lulaborges at hotmail.com.br>
>>Subject: [Bf-education] Dance animation
>>To: <bf-education at blender.org>
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>>Hi all,
>>here in Natal in my studio we made a little film with technology mocap,
>>it's not difficult and made with kinetcs from xbox defalt.
>>we used big buck bunny to that, but we not have more this film.
>>like this i think is really possible made an animation with this technology.
>>rest to know who will dance in front a kinect, I not! kkkkkkkkkk
>>we not have more this capture object.
>>
>>hugs animated,
>>Lula
>>
>>-------------------
>>*Dance Animation Using Blender Plus Featured Video Projects*
>>
>>Current Topic: I am now looking deeper into Dance 3D Animation Popular
>>Tool. There is one such tool stands out based on my brief search today
>>as to what is popular among dance animation.
>>
>>One of the most successful companies in 3D Dance Animation music video
>>games is Ubisoft . T
>>
>>heir Just Dance 3D Game Series uses the Dance Animation Software Engine so
>>called *3D Gesture Recognition Middleware by a company located in Belgium
>>. Their popular 3D tool is called SoftKinetic iisu*
>>
>>Below is a sample of what Softkinetic issu powered a most popular dance
>>animation game that I just found in utube.
>>
>>Jailhouse Rock by Ubisoft (Elvis Presley Classic)
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiy7n0PbxbA
>>
>>Question: The "Learning Curve" for doing something like this using blender
>>3D is likely far more difficult than getting access to Softkinetic IISU.
>>
>>This is the topic I hope to be able to discuss in a forum for those who
>>have a serious interest in non-commercial heritage music that are still
>>popular in countries like Poland, Canada and the "Cowboy Rock" From Texas,
>>USA, that has a link to heritage and cultures that grew up in America in
>>the last 200 years.
>>
>>Comments anyone ?
>>
>>Avi Dey
>>
>>Culture is the process by which a person becomes all that they were
>>created capable of
>>being.<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomascarl156185.html>
>>
>>Thomas
>>Carlyle<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/thomas_carlyle.html>
>>Previous Topic:
>>
>>Blender Guru
>>Dance Animation Using Blender
>>http://www.blenderguru.com/27-inspiring-blender-animations-that-will-make-your-jaw-drop/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>Message: 3
>>Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 07:45:00 -0800
>>From: "Peter Romero, M.Ed." <promero.media at gmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Bf-education Digest, Vol 96, Issue 15
>>To: bf-education at blender.org
>>Message-ID:
>> <CAEr1T3ro3Q50qRbxfQU+nJgNgjnWMr9frPWnKD=i=BfKwUsbBw at mail.gmail.com>
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>>Hi Avi,
>>
>> The type of animation demonstrated in "Line Dance" is more under
>>motion capture technology. At my school we did something similar with a
>>green screen and then had the student actors do their piece. The motion
>>was then transferred to a background made in Blender. The final piece was
>>then rendered into a movie format. We used Blender, FinalCut Pro,
>>Photoshop, and for Mocap, ipisoftware.
>>
>>Peter Romero
>>Media Arts Technology
>>
>>
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>>> (avi dey)
>>> 4. Re: Dance Animation Using Blender Plus Featured Video
>>> Projects (Marcelo V)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 14:12:49 +0100
>>> From: Ivano Arrighetta <thc-03_berserk at hotmail.it>
>>> Subject: [Bf-education] Open Source Software MultiMedia
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 14:32:40 +0100
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>>> Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Open Source Software MultiMedia
>>> To: Blender Educators and Trainers <bf-education at blender.org>
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>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> in reply to one of comments on the site you (or somebody) wrote: "it?s a
>>> blog in which someone will write tutorials". Do you really think there will
>>> be people who deliver their time and effort and make tutorials on your
>>> site? Just like that?
>>>
>>> Or, is it a site dedicated to have a content with given wide topics - all
>>> seem to have their own communities, like Inkscape, GIMP, Blender, etc.
>>> Honestly, I don't see much of the future for such a site. OK, maybe, if you
>>> force some innocent students to make a content first :)
>>>
>>>
>>> pz
>>> piotr
>>> --
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>>> From: avi dey <adtwinonline at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Bf-education] Dance Animation Using Blender Plus Featured
>>> Video Projects
>>> To: Bf-education at blender.org
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>>> <cgaylor at sgia.org>
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>>> December 05, 2013
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>>> *Dance Animation Using Blender Plus Featured Video Projects*
>>>
>>> Current Topic: I am now looking deeper into Dance 3D Animation Popular
>>> Tool. There is one such tool stands out based on my brief search today
>>> as to what is popular among dance animation.
>>>
>>> One of the most successful companies in 3D Dance Animation music video
>>> games is Ubisoft . T
>>>
>>> heir Just Dance 3D Game Series uses the Dance Animation Software Engine so
>>> called *3D Gesture Recognition Middleware by a company located in Belgium
>>> . Their popular 3D tool is called SoftKinetic iisu*
>>>
>>> Below is a sample of what Softkinetic issu powered a most popular dance
>>> animation game that I just found in utube.
>>>
>>> Jailhouse Rock by Ubisoft (Elvis Presley Classic)
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiy7n0PbxbA
>>>
>>> Question: The "Learning Curve" for doing something like this using blender
>>> 3D is likely far more difficult than getting access to Softkinetic IISU.
>>>
>>> This is the topic I hope to be able to discuss in a forum for those who
>>> have a serious interest in non-commercial heritage music that are still
>>> popular in countries like Poland, Canada and the "Cowboy Rock" From Texas,
>>> USA, that has a link to heritage and cultures that grew up in America in
>>> the last 200 years.
>>>
>>> Comments anyone ?
>>>
>>> Avi Dey
>>>
>>> Culture is the process by which a person becomes all that they were
>>> created capable of
>>> being.<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomascarl156185.html>
>>>
>>> Thomas Carlyle<
>>> http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/thomas_carlyle.html>
>>> Previous Topic:
>>>
>>> Blender Guru
>>> Dance Animation Using Blender
>>>
>>> http://www.blenderguru.com/27-inspiring-blender-animations-that-will-make-your-jaw-drop/
>>>
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>>> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 18:59:54 -0800 (PST)
>>> From: Marcelo V <mv_email at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Dance Animation Using Blender Plus
>>> Featured Video Projects
>>> To: avi dey <adtwinonline at gmail.com>, "Bf-education at blender.org"
>>> <Bf-education at blender.org>
>>> Cc: Zach Kurth-Nelson <zach.kurthnelson at gmail.com>, Carol Gaylor
>>> <cgaylor at sgia.org>
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>>> Dear Avi,
>>>
>>> I did not make any research about the subject but I will comment the video
>>> based on my observations.
>>> I may be completely wrong but let me proceed anyways:
>>>
>>> The dancers are not 3D models. They are real people with dancing with a
>>> green screen on background.
>>> The image is being mixed and filters for increasing saturation and
>>> contrast.
>>>
>>> Each dancer wears a glove with pre-selected/known colors where the
>>> position are being tracked. The SW processing the image compare the hands
>>> position against a pattern in the time domain to give a rate
>>> (Good/Bad/etc). I would even bet that if you only place the hands in the
>>> right place you may get a "Good" from your virtual instructor even without
>>> following the dance.
>>>
>>> I do not see any relation of this image processing with Blender. Blender
>>> could be used for modeling better virtual instructor but this would be done
>>> in development time, not in real time.
>>>
>>> Anyways... I do not see any way Blender could be used to implement this in
>>> real time.
>>> Suggestion... take a look at OpenCV and other libraries to help you with
>>> image processing and a game engine tool or even OpenGL to perform what you
>>> need in real time.
>>>
>>> Have fun,
>>> Marcelo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: avi dey <adtwinonline at gmail.com>
>>> To: Bf-education at blender.org
>>> Cc: Piotr Arlukowicz <piotao at gmail.com>; Marcelo V <mv_email at yahoo.com>;
>>> Zach Kurth-Nelson <zach.kurthnelson at gmail.com>; Carol Gaylor <
>>> cgaylor at sgia.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:27:50 PM
>>> Subject: Dance Animation Using Blender Plus Featured Video Projects
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ?
>>> December 05, 2013
>>> ?
>>> Dance Animation Using Blender Plus Featured Video Projects
>>> ?
>>> Current Topic:? I am now looking deeper into Dance 3D Animation Popular
>>> Tool.? There is one such tool stands out? based on my brief search today
>>> as to what is popular among dance animation.
>>> ?
>>> One of the most successful companies in 3D Dance Animation music video
>>> games is? Ubisoft .?? T
>>> ?
>>> heir? Just Dance 3D Game Series uses the Dance Animation Software Engine
>>> so called 3D Gesture Recognition Middleware by a company located in Belgium
>>> .? Their popular 3D tool is called? SoftKinetic iisu
>>> ?
>>> Below is a sample of what Softkinetic issu powered a most popular dance
>>> animation game that I just found in utube.
>>> ?
>>> Jailhouse Rock by Ubisoft? (Elvis Presley Classic)
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiy7n0PbxbA
>>> ?
>>> Question:? The "Learning Curve" for doing something like this using
>>> blender 3D is likely far more difficult than getting access to Softkinetic
>>> IISU.
>>> ?
>>> This is the topic I hope to be able to discuss in a forum for those who
>>> have a serious interest in non-commercial heritage music that are still
>>> popular in countries like Poland, Canada and? the "Cowboy Rock" >From
>>> Texas, USA, that has a link to heritage and cultures that grew up in
>>> America in the last 200 years.
>>> ?
>>> Comments anyone ?
>>> ?
>>> Avi Dey
>>> ?
>>> Culture is the process by which a person becomes all that they were
>>> created capable of being.
>>>
>>> Thomas Carlyle
>>>
>>> Previous? Topic:
>>> ?
>>> Blender Guru
>>> Dance Animation? Using Blender
>>>
>>> http://www.blenderguru.com/27-inspiring-blender-animations-that-will-make-your-jaw-drop/
>>>
>>> 26. HapiLoli
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