[Bf-education] Blender user certification

Piotr Arlukowicz piotao at gmail.com
Wed Dec 4 22:07:31 CET 2013


Avi,

your idea of creating a stronger community cooperation is great (in
general), and I think that with some effort it is possible to some extent.
I'm from Gdansk. This is a tri-city center in the north of Poland, a bit
smaller than Warsaw. The Polish Community is very diversified, with many
incomers who started learning Blender. The reason people are not interested
in making musical videos is just amount of work it requires. The whole
thing is not that hard, however and average skilled human animator can do
it, I think. I don't know who, however.

Please, if you like to talk about your projects and another things not
related to Octavio thread, send a new email to this list with your own
title and let's discuss there. I would not like to go so far off topic in
this thread.

regards


pz
piotr
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2013/12/4 avi dey <adtwinonline at gmail.com>

>
> Hi Piotr,
>
> I already did, checked Blender Network.
>
> There are none who have the experience or interested in these topics that
> would "fit" into our virtual team culture.
>
> Also,  our project is a community based project, that means people who
> live in this community , Fairfax Metro DC,  that's 5 million people are
> necessary as a community tv station lab, such as we have requires "eyeball
> to eyeball meeting".
>
> Creativity is not a function of just doing stuff over the internet !
>
> That's why I am trying to develp a "Blender Artist" who also know about
> game design, not only in my own commuity but other communities as well who
> want same things we do, ie, "community vitality via arts and science" !
>
> Hey, you are from Poland, I did a TV Show on Polish Americans as we have
> quite a few here in America. "Celebrating ethnic voices".
>
> But most Polish Amerians I know don't speak Polish !
>
> So, you live in Warsaw May Be ?
>
> Warsaw and Fairfax are approximately same size, about 2 million people.
>
> Why not start a "community to community link" between Warsaw and Fairfax,
> C2C to develop interest of people in community vitality through arts and
> science, using Blender and other video game development tools such as Unity
> (this is the game engine we plan to use, one of the best, and is offered by
> a company located near you, ie, Copenhagen, Denmark !
>
> Makes sense ?
>
> Avi Dey
>
> Avi Dey
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Piotr Arlukowicz <piotao at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Avi, your functional subtopic is rather about some kind of animation
>> driven by music. It belongs to a quite specific things and relies on
>> animation of human characters, so it involves rigging, NLA, lipsync, music
>> synchronization and many other things. The whole result is not about single
>> yet nice "Feature" nor single function and involve quite a lot of work in
>> different areas. Maybe you should look at BlenderNetwork and search for
>> artists who have required experience.
>>
>> The thread started by Octavio is about certification process in Blender
>> Education and already we mentioned some related things.
>>
>>  pz
>> piotr
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>>  2013/12/4 avi dey <adtwinonline at gmail.com>
>>
>>> December 04, 2013
>>>
>>>
>>> Piotr Arlukowicz Comment:
>>>
>>> *By the way, we are talking about more than one thing:*
>>>
>>> - tasks for people who wish to pass some Blender Education classes
>>> - certification process for Blender Education
>>> - certification process for Blender Foundation Certified Trainer
>>>
>>>
>>> Avi Request For Clarification On "Functional Topic" Relating to Blender
>>> Certification Sub-Topics
>>>
>>> My Sub-Topic:  How do we strengthen and encourage certification of
>>> "Functional Areas" as  Blender is used in many different ways.
>>>
>>> My Funcational Sub topic:
>>> Dance Animation  Using Blender
>>>
>>> Blender Guru
>>> Dance Animation  Using Blender
>>>
>>> http://www.blenderguru.com/27-inspiring-blender-animations-that-will-make-your-jaw-drop/
>>> 26. HapiLoli
>>>
>>> Conversation:  Only 1 person from Japan has know how to do this function
>>> !  This Problem that can be overcome by "wise Blender Functional
>>> Certification"
>>> Avi Dey
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Piotr Arlukowicz <piotao at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hi Dolf,
>>>>
>>>> nice to hear from you! :)
>>>> I don't give a certification during a normal study courses, the
>>>> University is for that. So, Blender classes are included in the whole
>>>> process as a small part although typical course I made lasts for 60-120
>>>> hours. If I am doing also a standalone course for business or a company, I
>>>> am usually creating my own certificate, but it is far from BFCT and we know
>>>> that can be done just like that. It depends of the level of the course.
>>>>
>>>> Blender exams I've done are of two types in general: they can check
>>>> detailed knowledge/skill or be a project-related. The first category is
>>>> very rigid, the second is more artistic oriented and the overall quality
>>>> and mood are important.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, we are talking about more than one thing:
>>>> - tasks for people who wish to pass some Blender Education classes
>>>>  - certification process for Blender Education
>>>> - certification process for Blender Foundation Certified Trainer
>>>>
>>>> So, let's not make a mess and lets focus on particular things, maybe in
>>>> a separate threads?
>>>>
>>>> btw Dolf, we have things to do, you know :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  pz
>>>> piotr
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>>>>  2013/12/4 Dolf Veenvliet <dolf at macouno.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> This discussion has indeed been going, on and off, for multiple years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Piotr: you talk a lot about the tasks you set your students, but not
>>>>> their exams... and perhaps that is what this discussion is about? How do
>>>>> you decide your students finished the course successfully, or failed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Octavio, do you have students asking your for certification? And if
>>>>> so... certification as what? And... if so... then do you already give them
>>>>> a certificate? We can all always give students a piece of paper that says
>>>>> they completed a course in Blender that we taught... and if you are a
>>>>> certified trainer, that could already be worth a lot? Is the Blender
>>>>> foundation needed for this, or is it just a couple teachers getting
>>>>> together?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it a good idea to do Blender certification (blender
>>>>> basics/advanced), or Skill based certification (3d modelling/animation)?
>>>>>
>>>>> And... how to test this? Some basic 3d knowledge can be done multiple
>>>>> choice, but I guess there will always be a part that's
>>>>> "artistic/subjective".
>>>>>
>>>>> Dp;f
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Guillermo J Ferro P <gferrop at gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am very interested
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/12/4 Octavio Mendez <octavio at g-blender.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hello everyone!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Time ago we discuss about a blender user certification on this list,
>>>>>>> and sadly we do not reach any result. Since then, has been growing interest
>>>>>>> in the subject by blender students, schools, and training centers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to bring back the topic and see if we can work together
>>>>>>> on that:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ton suggests not to put the efforts on the certification itself, but
>>>>>>> on the creation of standardized tests (like "Basic modeling") and
>>>>>>> offer this to schools and colleges to certify students with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He suggest to: "you can name it very smart in a way people perceive
>>>>>>> it as official, but the certificate would still be officiallly issued by
>>>>>>> the school itself. It is what Adobe does for photoshop for example."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who are interested? :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *Octavio A. Méndez Sánchez*
>>>>>>> octavio at g-blender.org
>>>>>>> www.g-blender.org
>>>>>>> 044 473 1034906
>>>>>>> @octagesimal
>>>>>>>
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