[Bf-education] Start Open Movie Projects
Ton Roosendaal
ton at blender.org
Mon Dec 19 13:03:17 CET 2011
Hi all,
Yes, a great way to teach Blender is create a short film/game together.
In fact, this workshop-based approach is getting wider following in
education for the creative industry here in Europe. I just read an
announcment of a private education offering 12 months advertisement/
media training in Amsterdam where students have to *pay* to get
assigned to jobs, to get practical experience together.
However; that idea has nothing to do with the "Open Movie" concept as
Blender Foundation has done three times now. Our open movie target is
not to teach or train the participants, but to deliver material in an
open format so others can learn from it. And to improve blender of
course!
-Ton-
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Ton Roosendaal Blender Foundation ton at blender.org www.blender.org
Blender Institute Entrepotdok 57A 1018AD Amsterdam The Netherlands
On 14 Dec, 2011, at 13:07, Ernesto Del Valle wrote:
> Mainly the fact that we had to keep learning about stuff that we
> where not able to cover on the workshops. That took a lot of time,
> and the trail and error that comes from lack of experience. The
> learning factor was a secondary goal in the project, but it kind of
> became one of the keystones of the project and something that was
> not really scheduled.
> As an example; we covered UV unwrapping basics on the workshops but
> we didn't know how to properly set up a complete character's UV
> layout, without too much stretching or unnecessary cuts.
> I guess that, for a company production we should focus on working
> with experienced artists, and for training, a more learning
> dedicated schedule should be used. That's why we want to make a
> second project that can be focused on the learning process, maybe
> start an institute which program could be based on such learning-
> focused productions.
>
> 2011/12/13 Knapp <magick.crow at gmail.com>
> I would love to learn what these problems were that you found in
> production. Perhaps there are ways to avoid them?
>
> On 12/13/11, Ernesto Del Valle <cecilff at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Historias Nativas, http://historiasnativas.macuare.org/ is a
> project that
> > started trying to be an open movie project. We knew that in our
> country,
> > there was so few artists that were working with Blender, so we did
> the call
> > to participate in workshops first (one generally basic and
> > another specialized in their working area with the help of
> latinamericans
> > BFCT) and then started production, so, everybody was at a learning
> level in
> > their specific area. This learning condition led to a series of
> > very difficult situations on production. We did this from a
> production
> > company and our idea was to begin in the 3D animation field, but
> due to
> > funding problems we had to temporally stop production for some
> months.
> >
> > We had a break in the project and started again with a new team,
> this team
> > was also new to Blender and did receive the initial workshops, but
> the
> > learning curve kept making a lot of noise in the production
> environment. So
> > we are now changing strategies and will try to include more
> specialized
> > artists, but really almost none have studio experience with Blender.
> >
> > Anyhow, after the first chapters of the series are finished, we
> would like
> > to transform the production in a specifically learning project,
> that could
> > be organized more like a class - assignment dynamic. So a study
> program
> > could be applied and the deadlines are not set by production but by
> > learning processes. Also keeping the classes regular in the
> specific area.
> >
> > Funding could be met by our state or by students, also half and
> half.
> >
> > Well any feedback of what all of you think of this experience, new
> ideas or
> > any other comment, are most welcome ;)
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Ernesto Del Valle
> >
> > 2011/12/13 Knapp <magick.crow at gmail.com>
> >
> >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Shashank duhan <milkyduhan at gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > I believe that the best way to learn or teach Blender is start
> an Open
> >> Movie
> >> > Project with students and Blender enthusiast which allow them to
> >> filmmaking
> >> > process, pipeline, as well as Blender itself. The students will
> then get
> >> > credits in the movie which can act as certification or proof
> that they
> >> can
> >> > work with Blender.
> >> >
> >> > I am going to start teaching kids blender by this process.
> First by
> >> giving
> >> > them a brief introduction of blender than start an Open Movie
> project,
> >> > in
> >> > which students will done all work and i will lead them. and
> it's gonna
> >> > be
> >> > free, because i believe education should not be commercialize.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> > Shashank Duhan
> >> > facebook.com/shashankduhan
> >>
> >> I like the idea but I have run into problems with 2 things here.
> First
> >> is finding good scripts. At first you think that will be the
> smallest
> >> problem but it is not. My answer so far is to use Shakespear
> because
> >> his works are free and because you can translate them into almost
> any
> >> time or place without much problem. I would love to hear where
> others
> >> find good scripts.
> >>
> >> Free classes: I used to each martial arts. I started with free
> >> classes. My students would often not to their homework and only
> came
> >> to class sometimes. Then I thought that this was stupid and why
> should
> >> I work myself to death for a bunch of people that did not care
> and for
> >> free? So I started changing on the high end of a normal price for
> such
> >> a class. Results? Students came to EVERY class, they did their
> >> homework and they progressed much faster. I also do TCM
> (acupunture)
> >> against smoking. The best predictor of success for smokers with
> >> acupuncture? How much they payed for it! (without payment treatment
> >> research has shown the acu almost doubles the chances of success).
> >> Don't do it for free. Charge them enough that they have respect for
> >> the class and the teacher. Perhaps what I say here is only true
> in the
> >> USA.
> >>
> >> Good luck!
> >> --
> >> Douglas E Knapp
> >>
> >> Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies
> >> with open source software!
> >> http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php
> >>
> >> Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer:
> >> http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm
> >> Please link to me and trade links with me!
> >>
> >> Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project.
> >> http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page
> >> http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/
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> >
> >
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> > Linux User #412877 - http://counter.li.org/
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> >
>
>
> --
> Douglas E Knapp
>
> Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies
> with open source software!
> http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php
>
> Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer:
> http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm
> Please link to me and trade links with me!
>
> Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project.
> http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page
> http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/
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