[Bf-education] Bf-education Digest, Vol 74, Issue 16
Octavio Mendez
octavio at g-blender.org
Mon Dec 19 09:33:59 CET 2011
I agree with Ivan, it must be an open model in a way that everyboy have a
chance to participate.
I just join the #blenderedu channel too.
do you know why there are two channels? i think is easer to meet only on
one channel.
Octavio.
2011/12/17 Laurent David <laurent at tdm.info>
> I like the way both of you approach that. There is still a bit of thinking
> to do on how to go with a more open source way to do the exams/question
> without being pushed away by other types and more closed forms of
> certification.
>
> But it makes sense. You still need a central reference though that would
> select and refine the exams but this is not too different from any open
> source project.
>
> Another question is how do you secure the funding in reference to my other
> post.
>
> On 17 Dec 2011 13:59, "Ivan Paulos Tomé" <greylica at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's interesting to see that some enterprises are trying to hold the flag
> for certifications, mainly BFCT, but there are discussions about it right
> now.
> There are questions about your proposal...
> How can you give a chance for the entire Blenderheads world in your vision
> ?
> I mean, how can you involve Blender community from different parts
> of the world, in a way that they have a chance to be in the same
> position in time/money/quality as you ?
> The way that it is being discussed and this is a directive
> (and it's being called the ''right way''),
> it's to connect persons from diferent countries all over the world, in a
> way that
> they connect to each other and start making materials that are ''real
> time''
> translated/discused/created for BCFT, Teachers and Students.
> How can you do this without the help of the community ?
> I have been working/discussing/connecting with friends to
> adress this issue in the way that everybody will have the same chance.
> I will try as much as possible, to connect persons,
> in a way that the most persons involved all over the world, better !
> For now, the best way is to start chating in IRC in #blenderedu and
> #blendereducation, those are channels that aren't dead anymore.
> The next step is a global call for participants, including everyone that
> could help with the developmento of the BFCT, Teachers and
> Students program.
>
> Good Vibrations !
>
> Ivan Paulos Tomé.
> greylica.
>
>
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>> 1. Re: Organizing / suporting education (Laurent David)
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>> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 00:41:14 +0000
>> From: Laurent David <laurent at tdm.info>
>> Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Organizing / suporting education
>> To: Blender Educators and Trainers <bf-education at blender.org>
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> I think the section about the certification resonates a conversation
>> that we had about 8 months ago.
>> I am really delighted to see that it is back on the table.
>>
>> I am working for a company called TDM in UK (www.tdm.info).
>> Our current position is the following:
>> . We are an Open Source software house, mainly focussing on LMSs
>> (Moodle, Mahara, Totara). So mainly educational/distance learning tools.
>> . We are also an IT professional academy, delivering
>> Apprenticeships centred around Professional IT qualifications.
>> . We are the LPI Master Affiliate for UK and Ireland
>> Thanks to this particular position, we have actually gained an
>> interesting background in Professional Certifications around Open Source
>> Technologies.
>>
>> In a nutshell, and after discussion, we would think that we should be
>> creating an entity that will:
>> . Create and proctor certified exams
>> . Promote the use of Blender and 3D Open Source technologies
>> . Push for its adoption in education by tying it to national
>> certification frameworks (eg QCF, Ofqual) in UK and other countries.
>> . Helping to setup more "local"/"regional" certification bodies -
>> in Europe and rest of the world
>>
>> This is an existing model that works quite well for some Open Source
>> projects/technologies and allows to channel funding into promoting the
>> certification and also have a more consistent approach.
>>
>> My main worries concerning an all-volunteer based approach ( but I might
>> be wrong, and there should be a mid-way) are that:
>>
>> * The provision might be inconsistent and this is key to the
>> success/failure of a certification
>> * Exams have to be carefully thought/built/updated. Who will do it
>> on a regular basis ?
>> * Exams, unless practical exams, as cannot be Open Sourced as they
>> will loose their "meaningfulness".
>> o There should be several levels:
>> + Level 1: Multiple choice questions
>> + Level 2+: mix between practical and Multiple choice
>> questions.
>>
>> * Certification needs marketing. Who will do that ?
>> * The certification should be comparable to other types of
>> certifications in the same domain. If we want the backing from
>> Educational institutions, we will need to go through the hoops. It
>> takes time and it is better when it is coming from one single
>> entity than several individuals.
>>
>> I do not want to come across as diminishing the importance of voluntary
>> work here. I acknowledge that impressive and extremely high standard
>> work has been done by hard working, committed and dedicated people on a
>> volunteer basis. But... planning, funding and resourcing is a major part
>> of tackling the problem of consistency and availability.
>> My previous attempt, suffered from the issues I just mentioned as
>> although this was still pretty much in my mind, I did not find the time
>> necessary to produce anything meaningful.
>>
>> I will be happy to dedicate a bit of time in developing that on behalf
>> of TDM.
>>
>> What do you think ?
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>> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:43:05 +0100
>> From: Knapp <magick.crow at gmail.com>
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>> > Exams, unless practical exams, as cannot be Open Sourced as they will
>> loose
>> > their "meaningfulness".
>>
>> What do you mean by this?
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>> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:12:15 +0000
>> From: Laurent David <laurent at tdm.info>
>> Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Organizing / suporting education
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>> Sorry... We need to create the exam behind closed door.. If not it is not
>> an exam...
>>
>> On 17 Dec 2011 09:43, "Knapp" <magick.crow at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Exams, unless practical exams, as cannot be Open Sourced as they will
>> loose
>> > their "meaningfulnes...
>> What do you mean by this?
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