[Bf-education] Blender Certification
laurent
laurent at tdm.info
Mon Apr 4 14:25:26 CEST 2011
Hi,
I like the proposal of Carlos as it is a really "community" based
bottom-up approach. As long as there are people to "manage" it, it will
probably be the best solution.
It covers quite a lot of topics (Courses, Exercises, Tests and
Certification) and I am not sure I had fully got my head around it.
If I understand a CERTIFICATION is a framework of CONTENT KEY (which, if
I understand, would call OBJECTIVES) and the community decides pn the
content that would match this KEY.
If we stay on the same example, we would have a KEY/OBJECTIVE
(beginner->test->meshes&modelling->modifiers->array ):
* To be able to create a simple array modifier from a simple shape
(LEVEL 1)
Under that topic we would have different tests/content/courses, created
by the community.
Then BF chooses the right KEYs and build a certification by aggregating
them.
Is it that Carlos ?
I am just wondering about the tests questions themselves. Ideally they
should not be accessible before the day you pass them, only practice
question can be accessed freely. In term of platform, I would suggest
Moodle as it is Open Source and well known in the sector of Education.
Thanks, Ton for the access to the FTP/Projects server. It may be that
Carlos has just defined the way to go about it. Let's carry on...
On 02/04/11 17:18, Ton Roosendaal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We have 7 servers running with blender websites already, and I have
> backup servers here which we can add to the cololcation hub too, when
> needed.
>
> Let's first try to define a couple of steps though; Carlos' proposal
> is something to review as well, and I know he can give us access to a
> good amount of webservers too. (for testing period or so, we can
> migrate it over later).
>
> If you need to exchange files during the discussion period here,
> there's several ways for it, all depending on how we intend to tackle
> the procudere too...
>
> - opening up a project on projects.blender.org, it allows to create
> "trackers" where people can post material (attachments) and have
> reviews in a public space
>
> - or just use the public ftp we have now:
> ftp.blender.org
> user anonymous
> Files will appear here: http://download.blender.org/ftp/incoming/
>
> -Ton-
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Ton Roosendaal Blender Foundation ton at blender.org www.blender.org
> Blender Institute Entrepotdok 57A 1018AD Amsterdam The Netherlands
>
> On 2 Apr, 2011, at 1:18, laurent wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for your encouraging answer, Ton.
>>
>> I agree with Douglas that we may not necessary need the training
>> material. The headings/table of contents are likely to be sufficient
>> as they can give us a clue about what is the priority and core
>> learning.
>> From that we can then build a list of topics and Objectives.
>> As an example, LPIC certification is quite well structured: http://www.lpi.org/eng/certification/the_lpic_program/lpic_1/exam_101_detailed_objectives
>>
>> Well... now we can probably start something...
>>
>> On a practical note, I am not sure what is the best way to exchange
>> ideas and communicate about that. The mailing list is not
>> appropriate for exchanging files.
>> Does the BF wants to host that or we need to find somewhere else ?
>> We have space on our servers if necessary.
>>
>> I am not a Blender instructor and will miss probably a lot of key
>> skills in Blender, however I have experience in Teaching and
>> professional certification. Douglas, are you interested in starting
>> something ? Anyone else interested ?
>>
>> On 30/03/11 11:41, Ton Roosendaal wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Currently the Blender Foundation doesn't really exist as an
>>> organization, it's actually just a legal vehicle to ensure we have
>>> our
>>> IP safe (code, domains, brand, docs, content) and to manage
>>> donations.
>>>
>>> The main target of BF is to keep blender.org alive, to facilitate all
>>> projects there (from docs to code). The BF doesn't officially meddle
>>> with code, designs, or content really... for that the groups of
>>> volunteers work in freedom, they organize themselves via the channels
>>> facilitated by BF.
>>>
>>> That's what I prefer to keep; BF should be as minimalistic as
>>> possible, and stick to facilitation. When needed BF can set a couple
>>> of steps as a catalyst, and withdraw when it goes well.
>>>
>>> In my discussion with Laurent I've understood that we can treat the
>>> Certification issue differently:
>>>
>>> --> Providing a standardized set of training material and tests
>>>
>>> This will keep the pure act of certification itself indepedently, but
>>> it will help trainers, teachers, schools, institutes, governments
>>> etc.
>>> to introduce Blender in their programs.
>>>
>>> I think that's an interesting approach to investigate, matching the
>>> "facilitation" strategy of BF as well.
>>>
>>> -Ton-
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Ton Roosendaal Blender Foundation ton at blender.org www.blender.org
>>> Blender Institute Entrepotdok 57A 1018AD Amsterdam The
>>> Netherlands
>>>
>>> On 23 Mar, 2011, at 19:20, laurent wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree with you Douglas.
>>>>
>>>> Whatever we do, there is something I was thinking from the start:
>>>> I am
>>>> UK based and the central organisation for all qualification is QCF/
>>>> Ofqual.
>>>> I have some contacts that have been through the process of getting a
>>>> certification through the official body for England and Wales.
>>>> What it means when it is done, is that awarding bodies can integrate
>>>> the
>>>> certification in their qualification (GCSE, A level...).
>>>> It means that the certification is opened to Secondary Education
>>>> through
>>>> University.
>>>> It then makes it easier for School/Colleges/Universities to justify
>>>> the
>>>> choice of support for their courses (and choice of software).
>>>> LPIC, CompTIA, Cisco have done it and it is great to be able to
>>>> deliver
>>>> a qualification + certification to students as it equips them
>>>> better.
>>>>
>>>> But that can be the long term view...
>>>>
>>>> What about the short term, is it possible to create a board or
>>>> something
>>>> "official" related to Blender Foundation ?
>>>> I exchanged emails with Ton Roosendaal last week-end, and although
>>>> he
>>>> was on the same positions as Jason concerning the implications of
>>>> the
>>>> Blender Foundation, my impression is that he was not against the
>>>> principle of a "board" of volunteer going toward a project like
>>>> this.
>>>> What would be your thoughts on that, Jason ?
>>>>
>>>>
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