[Bf-education] Bf-education Digest, Vol 48, Issue 2
Tom M
letterrip at gmail.com
Sat Aug 15 16:54:23 CEST 2009
Ton if we do dev certification, I'd just make it contingent on
1) Fixing n bugs, where at least m are non trivial
2) And/or contributing a non trivial feature
regarding artist hiring practices - while your observation is true for
art studios - for companies that have a focus entirely unrelated to
3D/art who just want someone to do a simple animation, many might want
some sort of certification, especially HR, before they will even look
at the portfolio.
LetterRip
> As a producer myself, I would honestly *never* hire someone based on
> certifications, but strictly and only look at the actual achievements,
> portfolio and work experience.
>
> And if an artist presents diplomas or certifications, any sane employer
> will first check on the school or institute that has provided it. Just
> build yourself an excellent name with good training, there's the added
> value students will seek for.
>
> -Ton-
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Ton Roosendaal Blender Foundation ton at blender.org www.blender.org
> Blender Institute Entrepotdok 57A 1018AD Amsterdam The Netherlands
>
> On 12 Aug, 2009, at 14:05, David Hickson wrote:
>
>> Dolf,
>> Thank you for the input.
>> Step one complete.
>> I took your advice and submitted my info to become a BFCT, and I know
>> join the proud ranks of the others on the list.
>>
>> Next step is to set up some on-line quizzes to establish user levels
>> and to aim them to the right classes.
>>
>> I would like to keep the Blender foundation in the planning stage of
>> this development even if Blenducation goes ends up offering
>> certification independently of the foundation. I would also like to
>> offer anyone interested in helping us out with this stage to join us
>> as we revamp the web site and build these quizzes.
>>
>> The need we have identified is company Tuition-Reimbursement for
>> professional students.
>>
>> Thank you Ton and the rest of the BFCT board.
>>
>> David Hickson
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 6:00 AM, <bf-education-request at blender.org>
>> wrote:
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>>> 1. Accreditation or certification. (David Hickson)
>>> 2. Re: Accreditation or certification. (E.Gopala krishnan)
>>> 3. Re: Accreditation or certification. (Frans Thamura)
>>> 4. Re: Accreditation or certification. (Dolf Veenvliet)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:57:21 -0400
>>> From: David Hickson <davidhickson at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Bf-education] Accreditation or certification.
>>> To: bf-education at blender.org
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>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> As some of you may know, www.Blenducation.org has been working
>>> diligently on
>>> setting up Blenders first live on-line, live training recourse for
>>> all
>>> levels of Blender users.
>>>
>>> We are updating the entire site right now to make the method of
>>> adding
>>> classes and attending classes much easier.
>>>
>>> We would like to offer accreditation or certification and are
>>> looking for
>>> advice or a school that we can align with to provide such a program.
>>>
>>> I understand the the BFCT certification can only be offered from the
>>> Blender
>>> foundation and is the ultimate goal of a hand-full of students. But
>>> there is
>>> a large number of users that would like a lower level of
>>> certification such
>>> as a user level certification.
>>> Blenducation would like to offer these levels of certification.
>>>
>>> Any advice is welcomed.
>>>
>>> --
>>> David Hickson
>>> Aka: Dipingo
>>> ____________________________
>>> Because it is your time.
>>> www.blenducation.org
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>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:09:34 +0530
>>> From: "E.Gopala krishnan" <gkagri at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Accreditation or certification.
>>> To: Blender Educators and Trainers <bf-education at blender.org>
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>>> *Greetings to all.It is a welcoming process.I already mailed about
>>> this to
>>> the Foundation.How can we proceed further?
>>> Regds G.K.Agri.
>>> *
>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:27 PM, David Hickson
>>> <davidhickson at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hello everyone,
>>> >
>>> > As some of you may know, www.Blenducation.org has been working
>>> diligently
>>> > on setting up Blenders first live on-line, live training recourse
>>> for all
>>> > levels of Blender users.
>>> >
>>> > We are updating the entire site right now to make the method of
>>> adding
>>> > classes and attending classes much easier.
>>> >
>>> > We would like to offer accreditation or certification and are
>>> looking for
>>> > advice or a school that we can align with to provide such a
>>> program.
>>> >
>>> > I understand the the BFCT certification can only be offered from
>>> the
>>> > Blender foundation and is the ultimate goal of a hand-full of
>>> students. But
>>> > there is a large number of users that would like a lower level of
>>> > certification such as a user level certification.
>>> > Blenducation would like to offer these levels of certification.
>>> >
>>> > Any advice is welcomed.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > David Hickson
>>> > Aka: Dipingo
>>> > ____________________________
>>> > Because it is your time.
>>> > www.blenducation.org
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:11:15 +0700
>>> From: Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Accreditation or certification.
>>> To: Blender Educators and Trainers <bf-education at blender.org>
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>>> that will be cool, if we can order to get the online become offline
>>>
>>> we have very bad internet connection here in this country
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Frans Thamura
>>> Meruvian. Java and Enterprise OSS
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>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 7:57 PM, David
>>> Hickson<davidhickson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hello everyone,
>>> >
>>> > As some of you may know, www.Blenducation.org has been working
>>> diligently on
>>> > setting up Blenders first live on-line, live training recourse for
>>> all
>>> > levels of Blender users.
>>> >
>>> > We are updating the entire site right now to make the method of
>>> adding
>>> > classes and attending classes much easier.
>>> >
>>> > We would like to offer accreditation or certification and are
>>> looking for
>>> > advice or a school that we can align with to provide such a
>>> program.
>>> >
>>> > I understand the the BFCT certification can only be offered from
>>> the Blender
>>> > foundation and is the ultimate goal of a hand-full of students.
>>> But there is
>>> > a large number of users that would like a lower level of
>>> certification such
>>> > as a user level certification.
>>> > Blenducation would like to offer these levels of certification.
>>> >
>>> > Any advice is welcomed.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > David Hickson
>>> > Aka: Dipingo
>>> > ____________________________
>>> > Because it is your time.
>>> > www.blenducation.org
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Bf-education mailing list
>>> > Bf-education at blender.org
>>> > http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-education
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:23:21 +0200
>>> From: Dolf Veenvliet <dolf at macouno.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Accreditation or certification.
>>> To: Blender Educators and Trainers <bf-education at blender.org>
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <183452670908091023i316a1d3fvd226d685f6f46ad2 at mail.gmail.com>
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>>>
>>> Well, user certification has so far not been something that the
>>> Blender
>>> Foundation has wanted to be involved in. And rightly so... That's
>>> what the
>>> educators are for. The Foundation certifies educators... the
>>> educators
>>> certify users.
>>> If this is something you're serious about... why not first get
>>> certified as
>>> an educator yourself? If more people who are certified are
>>> interested I
>>> think we could possibly set up some guidelines that we all agree on
>>> for
>>> certification of users. Then we could all agree on a standard
>>> certificate,
>>> and agree that certified educators can pass them out.
>>>
>>> Personally though... I've not yet seen the need to certify any of my
>>> students.
>>>
>>> Also... David, you are always free to create and maintain a
>>> blenducation
>>> certificate completely independantly. It has worked for other online
>>> courses
>>> that way already. Then also... if other educators that don't teach
>>> on your
>>> website yet want to certify... maybe they'll ally themselves to you
>>> and
>>> agree to hand out your certificate also to offline students.
>>>
>>> I think that's a very valid way to pick this up. Just do it
>>> yourself, talk
>>> to your educators (you have plenty on your website).... get going...
>>> and if
>>> it takes off, more people will want to join in, and maybe the
>>> certificate
>>> can be applied to other cases as well.
>>>
>>> Just some thoughts,
>>> Dolf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 4:39 PM, E.Gopala krishnan <gkagri at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > *Greetings to all.It is a welcoming process.I already mailed about
>>> this to
>>> > the Foundation.How can we proceed further?
>>> > Regds G.K.Agri.
>>> > *
>>> > On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:27 PM, David Hickson
>>> <davidhickson at gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hello everyone,
>>> >>
>>> >> As some of you may know, www.Blenducation.org has been working
>>> diligently
>>> >> on setting up Blenders first live on-line, live training recourse
>>> for all
>>> >> levels of Blender users.
>>> >>
>>> >> We are updating the entire site right now to make the method of
>>> adding
>>> >> classes and attending classes much easier.
>>> >>
>>> >> We would like to offer accreditation or certification and are
>>> looking for
>>> >> advice or a school that we can align with to provide such a
>>> program.
>>> >>
>>> >> I understand the the BFCT certification can only be offered from
>>> the
>>> >> Blender foundation and is the ultimate goal of a hand-full of
>>> students. But
>>> >> there is a large number of users that would like a lower level of
>>> >> certification such as a user level certification.
>>> >> Blenducation would like to offer these levels of certification.
>>> >>
>>> >> Any advice is welcomed.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> David Hickson
>>> >> Aka: Dipingo
>>> >> ____________________________
>>> >> Because it is your time.
>>> >> www.blenducation.org
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> Bf-education mailing list
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>>
>> --
>> David Hickson
>> Aka: Dipingo
>> ____________________________
>> Because it is your time.
>> www.blenducation.org
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