[Bf-education] Mailing list summary
Hector Castillo
Hector at surteratec.com
Tue Apr 18 23:59:09 CEST 2006
2004
oct
Ton R. setup of mailing list
Rcas managment system http://blender.ruicampos.com/mgmt.
nov
jseaver suggested tutorials to use as reference for international audience
rcas Idea: small course with its certification
tools: +Xical - Phillip Richdale - Platform for courses and
certifications
+blenderzine 1 - Alexandre Rangel - Training CD in portuguese
+ Infrastructure and facilities support-Jono Bacon
+Courses beta testers - Joshua Seaver
Proposal: 1.Define content
2.Make the movie
3.Make translations
4.Implementation, Xical
5.Review and define goals for the course
6.Certification content and goals
7.Prepare deploy and test phase
8.Review results and define future goals
Ton R. Seeks help for maintaining tutorials and pages for educators
rcas Offered help for maintaining tutorials and pages for educators and
asked for details
rcas management system's update
claudio Esbosed a certification program.
2005
jan Gustavo Muñoz started course "introducing 3D for artists with blender"
Offered spanish translations,colaboration in the certification
program, official colaboration from the fine arts institute (spain)
Rcas pointed february as the month to start hitting hard
Rcas Asked for opinions for the courses.
Added ideas about the coures and their estructure.
Alarrea Agreed about the first rcas's question, differed in the second.
Waiting for the courses to be ready.
Rcas Hoped to have first set of courses ready in june/july (english)
Offered translate it to portuguese, spanish, french and german.
Was finishing something in the blender source to provide good visual
feedback for the video courses.
After finish with previous item. Offered the blender shorcuts
tutorial as a proof of concept
Asked for feedback and ideas.
Planted the idea of defining standard courses to be later defined as
the official set.
Gustavo Muñoz Proposed a way to orginize the courses
Asked about implementation of the "official" blender course titles
Asked if certification was due to some hours of teaching blender
Asked for teacher's certification.
Asked who will choose among the courses the official one.
Rcas Answered gustavo's questions.
Gustavo Muñoz Agreed using Xical. Pointed that the demo is slow.
Rcas Offered a link to a small demo in xical
Ton R. Angela Plohman assigned to coordinate the education project.
Goal: to have education/training material developed in 2005
The 1200 missprints issue.
Ton R. BF intended for 2005 an update of the 2.3 guide.
Idea: parallel book for people who wanted to learn blender and
companion for the official blender certified book
Proposed title: Blender fundamentals.
Asked stefano for being the editor and reminded that the content
should be done based on the help of experienced educators.
Rcas Proposed ideas for the guide and feedback about the course
feb Gustavo muñoz proposed ideas for the guide and feedback about the
course.
Proposed the lessons of his course as the basis for the official course
proposed ideas for the course.
proposed a revenue system for the official courses
Rcas Agreed gustavo's proposals
proposed a video course along with the advanced books
idea: certifying teachers that way company/school would be officially
recognized.
Daniel Labarge posted a new tutorial realfxstudios
Daniel Labarge posted a new tutorial realfxstudios
macouno was teaching 3d, planned to use blender but uncertain
pointed few posts about certification and online lesson publishing
pointed reasons why certification was not a good idea at the moment
idea: official manual discount for educators who buy large ammounts
ton R. reply to macouno's idea
missprints issue.
macouno proposed ideas for educators materials
realfxstudios posted new tutorial
Ton R. www.3dny.com contacted me for developing course materials
asked for references
Rcas reply
Gustavo muñoz reply
realfxstudios posted new tutorial
realfxstudios updated website
Ton R. introduced natraj to the mailing list
natraj's letter: was aproacher an indian tv company for blender training.
idea: create a blender training section on their website
offered the material they developed free of cost in return of
rights and an acknoledgment
mar hhec proposed targets for the certification program
proposed an structure for the certification as a compilation of ideas
in the mailing list
rcas Agreed hhec's proposal
added the diploma's concept before certification
hhec agreed rcas's proposal
proposed a new structure adding the diploma's concept
questions about who will emmitt diplomas and certificates and gives
hipotetical answers for opinion
rcas answers previous questions
realfxstudios ideas for training approval
differs from hhec's structure
proposed a new structure for certification
jseaver opinion: certificate or diploma it is for the initial
"trainers" before general public.
reviewed commercial companies training and educational methods
rcas reviewed commercial companies training and educational methods
proposal: books covering basic and advanced features and DVD's
trouought the e-shop
innovate aproach of the contents, focus in 3d and CG as the main
content.
Declared time to start defining specific contents, keeping in mind
the following:
There is already a Reference Book.
There will be a series of "Blender Advanced" books.
The approach should be centered on 3D and CG, not Blender itself
(for that purpose we have the Reference Book).
The content of the "Blender Basics" series is to be used by people
who may or may not know anything about 3D and CG.
The "Blender Advanced" series will be used to train experts.
Ton R. Opinion: focus on feasible steps:
to develop good course material (like Blender Fundamentals course book)
develop a training program for trainers, and a means to certify
them as such
proposal: training should be targeted to teachers withing training
facilities to help them get new business
artists suscribing to "certified" training would get a diploma not
a bf-education certification
Setting up a good training program should essentially break the
barrier to get Blender accepted for many professionals out there, who
are not interested to participate in time-consuming web-based communities
we could start with defining the structure for how to certify
"Fundamental Trainer" certifications.
Main benefits of this approach:
it minimizes amount of work for the BF (we only have to certify
trainers)
a certification becomes valuable and defines status (only few have it)
maximum freedom for teachers to structure courses
clear business model; BF only will 'make money' from certifying
trainers and (optional) educational material. For the rest it's up to
the teacher to define how to do the business locally
jseaver reviewed www.animationmentor.com
jseaver complains about xical's video and sensitivity to programming
errors
Offered website with tutorials for students and teachers.
rcas explains xical's video problem and solution.
agrees the sensibility to errors in xical
calls for alternatives to xical.
ton R. Jim hoffman's letter:
introduced 3d to high school in saskatoon, Sask
explained plans
ton R. reviewed
http://ltc.smm.org/visualize/resources/tutorials/blender/modeling
jim hoffman introduced 3d to high school in saskatoon, Sask
explained plans
gustavo muñoz working on translation of video tutos at blender3d.org to
spanish
asked for space to upload the tutos
asked for help in adding the audio to the video
ton R. reply jim hoffman's letter
ton R. reply to gustavo muñoz space request
hhec offered gustavo help translating the tutos
g muñoz hhec comm handshake
jseaver reviewed an introductory PDF for personal learning edition of Maya
rcas opinion about the course's book: it should be a bit more
extensive that The Art of Maya. The Art of Maya is pretty good, but I
find it too basic, it should provide a bit more than that.
jseaver www.joshuaseaver.com/3D/ArtofMaya.pdf
ton R. asked for anyone with ideas for authoring/editing books
apr
paul chong expressed ideas for the publisher.
may
ton r. 2.3 manual issue
jseaver 2.3 manual issue
ton r. 2.3 manual issue
rcas 2.3 manual issue
ton r. 2.3 manual issue
G. Muñoz 2.3 manual issue
planned some larger courses
ton r. 2.3 manual issue
G. Muñoz 2.3 manual issue
daniel labarge 2.3 manual issue
aug
Dhenton looking for classes resources
ton r. reply dhenton
dhenton offered publishing on the web his material (if classes....)
Chris stones intend to write a series of how to use blender
asked for someone to host the videos
oct
carsten tigges teacher orginizing an educational project some material
already made and the rest will be published as it becomes ready
jseaver been teaching to teens constantly
experience teaching maya
offered help to carsten tigges
jseaver offered an overview of his student's works
ross jardine teaching students 13-15
offered help reviewing educational material
pascal companion Bentot des tutoriaux pour former des jeunes à
Blender ;-)
rcas reply carsten
ton R. link to a summary of 2005 conference (in education)
ewout Migration guides should be secondary to the main manual
There should be separate manuals covering specific areas
A quick start material is needed for "instant satisfaction"
Concerned about consistency in style
Offered to make an overview of style elements and combine them in a
styleguide
tom M. proposes to identify target market as a to-do
samples of migration guides
reviewed Zbrush at pixologic
intention: develop training tools
carstentiges software demo ready
Offered help on education
rcas reply carsten
tom M. reviewed sketchups
tom M. idea: create an intro to OOP structured on blender
Dhenton debates tom M.
nov carsten T. preparing sample chapters for a book about "general 3d -
related to blender"
asked for opinions about content of the book
matt K. discuss and gives opinions and ideas to carsten about the book
Rcas discuss and gives detailed opinions and ideas to carsten about
the book
tom M ideas related to newbies and the game engine
hhec some opinions about the carsten book issue
ton R. hhec's letter:
described a self sustained plan for teaching and rising funds for
foundation
luigi monaco entered a project in the educational section
asked for feedback
dec Tom M competition for a "cheat sheet"
sample cheatsheets from other vendors
asked for a keyboard map layout in the cheatseet (present the
reference's layout)
links to a quickstart sample
rcas proposed a meeting. Presented scope and goals for the meeting.
carsten T. announces progress related to the book he anounced on november
rcas link to wiki's agenda, minute and log
propose topics for next meeting:
times for meeting
name for the channel
purpose of each team
2006
jan tom M reviewed a 3dcg book at
http://www.joetainment.com/Plone/thecgtextbook/
Bas van Dijk links to a dutch blender course
rcas goals for 2006 in bfeducation:
Worldwide workshops for Blender
Help on the creation of the Training Book (for teachers)
goals for 2006 in bfdocboard:
Work closely for the creation of the Training Book
Help organize things for a better workflow between the developers
and the docboard
Translating the missing parts of the Books to Portuguese
Help with the creation of the new set of Books
proposes topics for next meeting:
Who will actively be in "charge" of bf-docboard, mostly for coordination
The focus of each board, to avoid overlapping
Define goals for 2006 for each board
Create a proposal for Blender devs of a better workflow between Devs
and Docboard, mostly for more up to date Documentation
Define standard week day and time for Meetings
rcas topics for next meeting
feb rcas job oportunity in bulgaria
theodore dounas interested in participating in a blender workshop
(bulgaria)
spiderworm asks for help on becoming a blender teacher
theodore idea: apply for funding like EU dissemination of knoledge
offers: a little research, and present pottential oppurtunities in
next meeting
ton R. reviews http://www.cdschools.org/54223045235521/blank/browse.asp?
hhec notes from the meeting
rcas next meeting topics
rcas rui's plans for libre graphic meeting.
mar
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