[Bf-docboard] Page Update (Doc:2.6/Manual/Introduction/Installing Blender/Linux)

[Riidom]

I updated the Select/Edge page (  
http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Riidom/SelectingEdges ) , and put  
on top a little note about that problem. Since I am no linux user, I  
stayed vague here, but I would like to include a link to a page that deals  
with the problem in detail, once it is agreed upon creating one. There  
would be probably several places where such a hint could come to use, I  
think.


Am 18.12.2012, 21:53 Uhr, schrieb Tibor Futo <tiborfuto at gmail.com>:

> Fade, I am programmer and research engineer(of 20+ years), and yet it
> took me quite a while to find the relevant information.
>
> Let´s make installing as easy as possible, so even kids can have an up
> and running system in no time.
>
> ˝Installation˝ sections usually include OS/WM specific stuff, and
> omitting them is an error. I missed the info, dug it up and put it
> there, so next time I just consult the documentation.
>
> If this is such a big deal, a new page should be created for distro
> specific data.
>
> However, Alt-Click is something I want right away. I hate the default
> 3 button mode, I do not even know how can people use that, very
> awkward and stressing middle finger may cause various problems later.
> The first thing I do is turntable after install, and many people uses
> 3 button emulation.
>
> I suggest keeping that comment there.
>
> T.
>
> On 12/19/12, Fade <fade_docboard_blender at ymail.com> wrote:
>> I don't think we should be adding distro specific instructions to the
>> wiki (it's a Blender manual after all). This will just lead to a chronic
>> maintenance hassle given the number of distros, window managers and
>> customization possibilities. e.g. I'm on arch with fluxbox as my WM, so
>> Ubuntu and gnome instructions are irrelevant to me, just as they would
>> be for any Ubuntu user who had installed XFCE, openbox etc.
>>
>> I think it's best to simply make a note of the potential for the
>> ALT+mouse click conflict and indicate that users may either want to
>> change their distro/window manager settings (in which case they should
>> consult that documentation) or alter the Blender key setting. I'd
>> rewrite this as something like:
>>
>> **
>> Many Linux distributions default to Alt+LMB for moving windows which can
>> cause input conflicts since Blender uses Alt+Click for many operations.
>> The simplest way to avoid this is to change the key setting for your
>> window manager. Please consult your window manager's documentation for
>> instructions.
>>
>> Alternately, you could change the Blender key setting by editing the
>> relevant Input settings from the User Preferences window. Note that
>> there are several settings that need to be changed so the recommended
>> method is to change the key settings for your window manager.
>> ***
>>
>> Cheers
>> Fade
>>
>>
>> On 18/12/12 20:39, Tibor Futo wrote:
>>> I am new to this list. Is there a way to survey users' configuration?
>>>
>>> No clue about Nvidia drivers in Ubuntu...
>>>
>>> Probably you should add your fix to the documentation, making as
>>> generic as possible, for KDE.
>>>
>>> T.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Knapp <magick.crow at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:magick.crow at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Tibor Futo <tiborfuto at gmail.com
>>>     <mailto:tiborfuto at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>     > Blender uses the Alt button for three button mouse emulation. I
>>>     suggest not
>>>     > changing the default keybinding for Blender's Alt-Click behavior
>>>     for three
>>>     > button mouse emulation. Linux's screen grabbing for Alt-Click is
>>>     pretty
>>>     > stupid But, what developers could do is: not propagating the
>>>     Alt-Click to
>>>     > the OS. That way Alt-Click would work in Blender, but no OS  
>>> setting
>>>     > modification would be neccessary.
>>>     >
>>>     > My guess is that most Blender users are using Ubuntu for the
>>>     latest video
>>>     > drivers, and most people use a Gnome derivative as a desktop. So
>>>     I do not
>>>     > really get your KDE comment :-).
>>>     >
>>>     > T.
>>>
>>>     I know a LOT of KDE users. I would think Ubuntu is bigger but there
>>>     are plenty of KDE users.
>>>     My kde Sabayon is using Nvidia 310.19
>>>     Is Ubuntu more up to date?
>>>
>>>     My fix for kde is EASY just change the KDE system key to the meta
>>> key.
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