[Bf-docboard] Redirecting old 2.3 docs: help needed!

[Kesten Broughton]

if someone can explain to me the workflow, i'm ready to start mapping 2.4
docs to 2.5/2.6 with content corrections and new screenshots reflecting the
updates.  I'd start with game engine and physics stuff.  I could at least
be creating the updated content in a sandbox until the linking/SEO is
finalized.

k

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 8:30 AM, mindrones <mindrones at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> On 11/03/2011 02:35 PM, Jaagup Irve wrote:
> > Mindrones: I'd be willing to help if I'm online at the time. You are 1
> > timezone away but I'm sometimes able to postpone my sleep. I can be
> > found at skype under jaagup.irve user if I'm not in the IRC (which
> > happens sometimes).
>
> On 11/05/2011 02:21 AM, Fade S wrote:
> > I'm happy to help with this.
>
>
> Cool thanks guys :)
>
> I see Irve in irc quite often; Fade, never tried to join #blenderwiki?
>
>
>
> On 11/05/2011 02:21 AM, Fade S wrote:
> > How do you want to split up the work to
> > avoid duplication? Maybe we can assign volunteers a section in the order
> > they've emailed. e.g. you take Section 1: Introduction to Blender,
> > Jaagup takes Section 2: Modelling, materials and lights, I take Section
> > 3: etc.
>
> First of all,
>
> http://www.blender.org/documentation/htmlII/
>
> is a Reference and we can redirect these after we have done the
> automatic reference, so let's focus on
>
> http://www.blender.org/documentation/htmlI/
>
> There we have 180 links:
>
> A)
> From: I. Introduction to Blender
> To:   II. Modelling, Materials and Lights
> ----------------------------------------------
> 88 links
>
> B)
> From: III. Animation
> To:   Glossary
> ----------------------------------------------
> 92 links
>
>
> What about: Irve -> A | Fade -> B, so I can go ahead on other stuff? :)
>
> Is that ok?
>
>
> > I do have a few queries though. Why are we mapping it to the 2.4 manual
> > and not the 2.6 manual? From the mapping and your later post here:
> >
> > http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-docboard/2011-November/003772.html
> >
> > It seems like we'll be mapping 2.3-->2.4, then aligning 2.4 to 2.6 as
> > much as possible. If I've understood this and the later SEO discussions
> > correctly (and very likely I haven't ;)), it means that people will
> > search for "blender extrusion", find the 2.3 page, get shifted over to
> > the 2.4 manual via the server mapping and then redirected to 2.
>
> > If you're going to align 2.4 and 2.6, would it not be simpler to wait
> > until that is done, then just map 2.3 directly to 2.6?
>
>
> After the mapping, google will know that a certain 2.3 page is now
> Doc:2.4/Manual/Foo.
>
> But Doc:2.4/Manual/Foo is crosslinked to Doc:2.5/Manual/Foo and google
> knows this :)
>
> So, by searching for "blender foo" in the search results stack we will
> hopefully find Doc:2.6/Manual/Foo alongside of Doc:2.4/Manual/Foo.
> By choosing 2.6, we're saying google that we prefer 2.6 and I think
> google takes in account the human choice too, to calculate a page ranking.
>
> This way we won't damage articles linking to old pages (think to the
> animation chapters which are quite different and partly incompatible).
>
> Hope this makes sense for you guys too?
>
>
>
> On 11/05/2011 09:49 AM, Raindrops From Sky wrote:
> > Another aspect:
> >
> > The 2.3 -> 2.4 (or 3.6) redirect will be within the same website
> > (blender.org <http://blender.org>).
> > Such links may not help in increasing the rating at all.
>
> These would not be links, but permanent redirects.
>
>
> > For higher ranking, the pages need inbound links from OTHER websites.
> > In fact, the tag analysis points out that there are no inbound links
> at present.
>
> These pages won't link to wiki, because they won't exist anymore, so
> there wouldn't be backlinks at all.
>
> The reason to use a permanent redirect is to tell the search engine
> where to go look when they won't find the high rank pages anymore.
>
> I'm not sure if this will attribute the high rank to the wiki pages
> somehow, but surely this is better than just removing the pages and hope
> that this will make the wiki pages jump up of 1 step in the results stack
> :)
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Luca
>
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