[Bf-cycles] Why remove square samples?
Nahuel Belich
casillapforos at yahoo.com.ar
Thu Aug 17 01:21:40 CEST 2017
Hello:
Here I talk with Eugenio Pignataro (Aka: Oscurart) we agree that its nice to have the square option but not being forced to used it, we consider that there are situations where having the possibility to fine tune the sampling parameters its a very usufull possibility, there are situations where you wont want to rise the double but to find the exact sweet spot.
About keeping the ui and what should be the default, i personally consider that its basically the same, if we have the ui option and i dont feel comfortable with the default, i just change it and Ctrl+U :) and if the UI option its no more there, its also simple to write x*x or (pow(x,2)) or something like that to get the multiplier in the parameters.
In other words i prefer always to have the possibility to fine tune and touch instead to be forced to use X in certain way, although it could be a nice simplification to bare in mind for "Blender 101"
Nahuel Belich
Senior CG Generalist | BFCT
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El mar 15-ago-17, Mohamed Sakr <3dsakr at gmail.com> escribió:
Asunto: Re: [Bf-cycles] Why remove square samples?
Para: "Discussion list to assist Cycles render engine developers" <bf-cycles at blender.org>
Fecha: martes, 15 de agosto de 2017, 14:57
I
understand it is a UI part for the squared samples, here in
Cycles4D we don't have that checkbox, but by default we
square samples!! (and I guess you are doing the
opposite).
On Tue,
Aug 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Thomas Dinges <blender at dingto.org>
wrote:
Hey everyone,
The 2.79 release still has the Squared Samples
option. It was
removed in master afterwards.
I like the various UI simplifications that were made
lately in
Cycles, 2.8x gives us the chance to revisit several
things and
simplify the UI experience. I suggest to keep all the
changes, and
check what else we can improve during 2.8x. We can
revisit at any
later time, if needed.
Best regards,
Thomas
Am
15.08.2017 um 18:11 schrieb Adriano
Oliveira:
Brecht, thank you for your feedback.
I think squared samples is a better approach,
as long as
small units increments don't change as much.
No matter what, I
got used to having it checked and teach my
students to do it
so.
I suggest we keep it in 2.79 and discuss it
for 2.8 in the
context of other UI changes.
IMPORTANT: Sampling presets are squared samples
and did not
get revised after the change.
Adriano A.
Oliveira
Coordenador
do Colegiado do Curso de
Cinema e
Audiovisual
Universidade
Federal do
Recôncavo da Bahia
(UFRB)
Centro de
Artes Humanidades e Letras
(CAHL)
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1673892
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2017-08-15
11:47 GMT-03:00 Brecht Van
Lommel <brechtvanlommel at pandora.be>:
Square samples is purely a UI
side feature,
so is totally up to you if you want to keep it
in
Cycles4D.
All user facing changes are tracked in
our release
notes:
https://wiki.blender.org/index
.php/Dev:Ref/Release_Notes/2. 80/Cycles
On
Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 4:39
PM, Mohamed Sakr <3dsakr at gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Brecht,
I hope there will be a list of all
changes in
the UI/Blender bridge so I can
re-apply them
too.
cheers,
Mohamed Sakr
On Tue, Aug 15,
2017 at 4:31 PM, Brecht Van
Lommel <brechtvanlommel at pandora.be>
wrote:
Hi,
This is one of the
first steps in
planned changes to
simplify Cycles
sampling for 2.8, by the
end the
settings should look
quite different
and there will be more
readjustment
needed.
We've seen users
not realize this
option is enabled or
not, leading to
too many or not enough
samples by
accident. I think it
will be better
in the long run to have
just a
single way to specify
the number of
samples. But if we get
more feedback
about this being a
problem we can
consider restoring
it.
Regards,
Brecht.
On Mon, Aug
14, 2017 at 4:12 AM,
Adriano
Oliveira <adriano.ufrb at gmail.com>
wrote:
Fellows,
Just
notice that
square
samples
option was
removed
and that
sampling
presets got
messed. Very
annoying, I
always use
square
samples in
Cycles for
years. Just
don't know
how to thing
otherwise.
Please,
reconsider.
Adriano
A.
Oliveira
Livre
de vírus.
www.avast.com.
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