[Bf-cycles] Why remove square samples?

Thomas Dinges blender at dingto.org
Tue Aug 15 20:06:05 CEST 2017


Right, we added the ability to square samples later on, as an option. If
you already square samples and do that by default, you can keep that for
Cycles4D. The change in the code is merely on the Blender UI part and
Blender -> Cycles exporter. No changes in the kernel. :)


Am 15.08.2017 um 19:57 schrieb Mohamed Sakr:
> I understand it is a UI part for the squared samples, here in Cycles4D
> we don't have that checkbox, but by default we square samples!! (and I
> guess you are doing the opposite).
>
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Thomas Dinges <blender at dingto.org
> <mailto:blender at dingto.org>> wrote:
>
>     Hey everyone,
>
>     The 2.79 release still has the Squared Samples option. It was
>     removed in master afterwards.
>
>     I like the various UI simplifications that were made lately in
>     Cycles, 2.8x gives us the chance to revisit several things and
>     simplify the UI experience. I suggest to keep all the changes, and
>     check what else we can improve during 2.8x. We can revisit at any
>     later time, if needed.
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Thomas
>
>
>     Am 15.08.2017 um 18:11 schrieb Adriano Oliveira:
>>     Brecht, thank you for your feedback.
>>
>>     I think squared samples is a better approach, as long as
>>     small units increments don't change as much. No matter what, I
>>     got used to having it checked and teach my students to do it so.
>>
>>     I suggest we keep it in 2.79 and discuss it for 2.8 in the
>>     context of other UI changes.
>>
>>     IMPORTANT: Sampling presets are squared samples and did not get
>>     revised after the change.
>>
>>
>>     *Adriano A. Oliveira*
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>>     2017-08-15 11:47 GMT-03:00 Brecht Van Lommel
>>     <brechtvanlommel at pandora.be <mailto:brechtvanlommel at pandora.be>>:
>>
>>         Square samples is purely a UI side feature, so is totally up
>>         to you if you want to keep it in Cycles4D.
>>
>>         All user facing changes are tracked in our release notes:
>>         https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Ref/Release_Notes/2.80/Cycles
>>         <https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Ref/Release_Notes/2.80/Cycles>
>>
>>
>>         On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Mohamed Sakr
>>         <3dsakr at gmail.com <mailto:3dsakr at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             Hi Brecht,
>>
>>             I hope there will be a list of all changes in the
>>             UI/Blender bridge so I can re-apply them too.
>>
>>             cheers,
>>             Mohamed Sakr
>>
>>             On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Brecht Van Lommel
>>             <brechtvanlommel at pandora.be
>>             <mailto:brechtvanlommel at pandora.be>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Hi,
>>
>>                 This is one of the first steps in planned changes to
>>                 simplify Cycles sampling for 2.8, by the end the
>>                 settings should look quite different and there will
>>                 be more readjustment needed.
>>
>>                 We've seen users not realize this option is enabled
>>                 or not, leading to too many or not enough samples by
>>                 accident. I think it will be better in the long run
>>                 to have just a single way to specify the number of
>>                 samples. But if we get more feedback about this being
>>                 a problem we can consider restoring it.
>>
>>                 Regards,
>>                 Brecht.
>>
>>
>>                 On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 4:12 AM, Adriano Oliveira
>>                 <adriano.ufrb at gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:adriano.ufrb at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                     Fellows,
>>
>>                      
>>
>>                     Just notice that square samples option was
>>                     removed and that sampling presets got messed.
>>                     Very annoying, I always use square samples in
>>                     Cycles for years. Just don't know how to thing
>>                     otherwise.
>>
>>                      
>>
>>                     Please, reconsider.
>>
>>
>>
>>                     *Adriano A. Oliveira*
>>
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