[Bf-cycles] Node names (two can have seemly same name and appearance)
Philipp Oeser
info at graphics-engineer.com
Sun Nov 3 00:35:35 CET 2013
Hm, gave it a quick go, not sure if this is a step forward.
The default collapsed node seems too small to show _both_ nodetype and
operation (even though when the collapsed node is resized in width it
works quite well...) Anyways, if in doubt, I would prefer operation as
well.
Have a look here: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/61802
(patch here if someone wants to experiment more with this
http://www.pasteall.org/46976)
Greetz
Philipp
On Sat, 2013-11-02 at 21:00 +0100, Gottfried Hofmann wrote:
> On 11/02/2013 07:42 PM, Greg Zaal wrote:
> > Could we just make the automatic label something like "Mix - Multiply"?
>
> That is a very good idea indeed!
>
> Gottfried
>
>
> > I'm actually not particularly bothered by this, people who get confused
> > by it are only confused once, and then know it. In this case I'd say
> > favour the experienced users and leave it as-is, or compromise and make
> > everyone happy with the cost of a longer label.
> >
> >
> > On 2 November 2013 19:18, Piotr Adamowicz <padamowicz at gmail.com
> > <mailto:padamowicz at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > If the problem is making it easy for beginners to find the nodes, then
> > perhaps the solution would be to move the math node into its own
> > section and add a menu item for each of its modes while keeping the
> > math node itself as is? That way the beginners would find it easily
> > and the regular users would still keep their useful labels.
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 6:13 PM, ishly habib <ishrox123 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:ishrox123 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > I think that it would be enough if the search would understand
> > add as a
> > > version of the mix node and pop-up because the typical thing for
> > a beginner
> > > to do when I can't find the node is to search it. The solution of
> > headers is
> > > clunky in my opinion. if that matters
> > >
> > > On 01/11/2013 10:38 pm, "Brecht Van Lommel"
> > <brechtvanlommel at pandora.be <mailto:brechtvanlommel at pandora.be>>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I'm not sure I agree, if you build a setup with math or color mix
> > >> nodes it's quite tedious to have to rename them manually I would
> > >> think? Although perhaps this is a non-issue for typical users,
> > just in
> > >> my experience I quite like this renaming.
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps we should have tooltips when you are over a node (header),
> > >> with the node name and description of the node, that would solve the
> > >> issue in a different way.
> > >>
> > >> Brecht.
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Greg Zaal <gregzzmail at gmail.com
> > <mailto:gregzzmail at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >> > Hey David,
> > >> >
> > >> > I agree, it's especially difficult for beginners to look at
> > someone's
> > >> > node
> > >> > setup and wonder where this weird "Modulo" node (for example)
> > comes from
> > >> > that they can't find in the menus. The title of the node should be
> > >> > displayed
> > >> > exactly how it is in the Add menu, and only change when the user
> > >> > explicitly
> > >> > changes it's label in the properties region.
> > >> >
> > >> > It's not cycles specifically, but also the compositing (and I
> > assume
> > >> > texture) nodes as well that have this issue.
> > >> >
> > >> > Cheers,
> > >> > Greg
> > >> >
> > >> > On Nov 1, 2013 6:08 AM, "David Black" <db4tech at yahoo.co.uk
> > <mailto:db4tech at yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Apologies, I do have dyslexia, subject should read...
> > seemingly not
> > >> >> seemly.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The following line should read...
> > >> >> (While nodes are collapsed) it becomes possible for math and
> > vector
> > >> >> math
> > >> >> nodes to have a seemingly identical name and appearance.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I notice the two nodes in question have different socket
> > inputs which
> > >> >> helps differentiate to some extent, still like how other
> > nodes provide
> > >> >> header names rather than function, this in itself is of course
> > >> >> subjective.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> David
> > >> >> --
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 3d-designs-davidblack.blogspot.com
> > <http://3d-designs-davidblack.blogspot.com>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 01/11/2013 03:38, David Black wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Hi Brecht and other mailing list members.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> While we are discussing nodes, what are peoples thoughts on
> > >> >> Converters\Math node displaying 'Math' and Converters\Vector Math
> > >> >> displaying
> > >> >> 'Vector Math' for their node names?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> They are the only two nodes which change name depending on their
> > >> >> function,
> > >> >> while I can see this is useful, it can also cause identification
> > >> >> difficulties. (While nodes are collapsed) it becomes possible
> > for math
> > >> >> and
> > >> >> vector math nodes to have an identical name and appearance.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> With all other nodes displaying header names rather than
> > function,
> > >> >> would
> > >> >> adding header names to these two nodes help with
> > identification and
> > >> >> maintain
> > >> >> consistency?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thank you for your time,
> > >> >> David
> > >> >> --
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 3d-designs-davidblack.blogspot.com
> > <http://3d-designs-davidblack.blogspot.com>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
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