[Bf-committers] Handling of user data.

Ray Molenkamp ray at lazydodo.com
Wed May 18 02:34:48 CEST 2022


The core team has bought blender to where it is today,
they seem to have a pretty good handle on things.

I'm not sure design by committee on bf-c is what
this problem was lacking.

Just give 'm time, guys, they got this.

--Ray

On 2022-05-17 6:19 p.m., Harley Acheson via Bf-committers wrote:
>> The Idea being to put all of the unlinked stuff into some trash can of
> sorts...
>
> That is what we would have if we would simply just save everything, with
> your "trash can"
> just being the items that have zero users. Then you can choose, at any
> time, to remove
> those items.
>
> These two approaches to data - only save things that are in use except for
> items the user
> has explicitly marked, versus saving all user data and allowing them to
> delete what they
> want - are not symmetrical.  The former creates an emergency at the point
> of exit that we
> will not be able to fix with warnings.  The latter removes that emergency
> and allows the user
> to deal with it at leisure.
>
> I have heard the argument that "OMG, this will make our files bloat".  But
> you can turn such
> a "bloated file" into one without saved orphans with the currently existing
> "purge orphans"
> operator. You can run this all the time, make it an option to run on save,
> or never run it. But
> it leaves this to you to deal with when you want, not done *for *you.
>
> With the thought of (slowly) moving toward saving orphan data, the
> following experimental
> patch replaces the current File / Clean Up menu of items with a single
> "Clean Up" dialog
> that can be used remove orphans, set all orphans to fake user, or to bring
> up a window
> with Outliner set to "Orphan Data" mode so you can manage them granularly.
>
> https://developer.blender.org/D14030
>
> Harley
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