[Bf-committers] No Monday or Tuesday meetings for the time being

Tue Mar 9 17:17:28 CET 2021

Hi Ryan,

> It seems to me that you are still having drop in pseudo-meetings on
Mondays, just not advertising them.

I'm not sure what you mean by pseudo-meetings. Monday just happens to be
the day we set as a deadline to post the weekly notes from the different
modules and projects. You can check the edit history of the posts and see
how it is written by multiple developers asynchronously.

> The meetings are an important outreach to the community and a chance for
developers to bring up issues.

The best outreach place are actually the modules. And the modules are
encouraged to have meetings with the people involved in them. Some modules
are more active than others. But either way you should always be able to
reach out to the modules if there is something you want to help with.

Best regards,
-Dalai-
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Blender Development Coordinator
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Op wo 3 mrt. 2021 om 08:10 schreef Ryan Inch via Bf-committers <
bf-committers at blender.org>:

> It seems to me that you are still having drop in pseudo-meetings on
> Mondays, just not advertising them.
> I understand that if something doesn't work it needs to be reevaluated
> and changed, but the meetings are an important outreach to the community
> and a chance for developers to bring up issues (both internal devs and
> community devs) that need wider discussion (such as GSoC).
>
> If having a meeting at a specific time is too restrictive then perhaps
> Mondays should become an official (and advertised) "meeting day" and
> then anyone can chime in throughout the day, new developers can be
> announced, issues brought up, etc...  This should help encourage
> participation from the community.  And perhaps a Google Doc (or
> equivalent) could be maintained as a list of issues/points to be
> considered during the day (open to the community to add issue/point
> suggestions) and updated as the day progresses.
>
> Hopefully this shows that weekly meetings are still valued by the
> community and can be improved so that they are valuable for everyone to
> attend.
>
> Thank you for your consideration.
> Ryan
>
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> >     1. No Monday or Tuesday meetings for the time being (Dalai Felinto)
> >     2. Re: No Monday or Tuesday meetings for the time being
> >        (Ray Molenkamp)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 17:33:28 +0100
> > From: Dalai Felinto <dalai at blender.org>
> > To: bf-blender developers <bf-committers at blender.org>
> > Subject: [Bf-committers] No Monday or Tuesday meetings for the time
> >       being
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> > Hi,
> > The Monday (developers) and the Tuesday (modules) meetings are currently
> on
> > hold. The Monday one has very little quorum and is rarely useful.
> >
> > The Tuesday talks (module meetings) are quite a joy actually and I will
> > miss talking to the modules owners 1:1. But they have always being more
> > like a  healthy check then a permanent solution. What we need instead is
> to
> > make sure the modules are properly structured and can operate
> autonomously.
> > But this is a separate topic.
> >
> > I have a new idea on how to do the weekly communication of the ongoing
> > module and projects:
> >
> > * We keep the weekly online page in devtalk for the weekly notes [1].
> > * Developers keep adding their weekly reports there.
> > * Everyone adds relevant announcements there
> > * [new] Modules and projects then add their notes there as well,
> > asynchronously.
> > * [new] At the end of Mondays I do a final pass in the page and post it
> > here.
> >
> > [1] - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/15-february-2021-upcoming/17475.
> >
> > Any feedback is welcome.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > -Dalai-
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> > Dalai Felinto - dalai at blender.org - www.blender.org
> > Blender Development Coordinator
> > Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 09:45:11 -0700
> > From: Ray Molenkamp <ray at lazydodo.com>
> > To: bf-committers at blender.org
> > Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] No Monday or Tuesday meetings for the
> >       time being
> > Message-ID: <036450a5-c108-c588-0766-e60cc14d4a27 at lazydodo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > That seems somewhat strange and out of the blue (at least for me), the
> lack of reasoning for putting them on hold especially for the Tuesday ones
> you seem fond of is concerning, what am i missing here?
> >
> > --Ray
> >
> > On 2021-02-08 9:33 a.m., Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> The Monday (developers) and the Tuesday (modules) meetings are
> currently on
> >> hold. The Monday one has very little quorum and is rarely useful.
> >>
> >> The Tuesday talks (module meetings) are quite a joy actually and I will
> >> miss talking to the modules owners 1:1. But they have always being more
> >> like a  healthy check then a permanent solution. What we need instead
> is to
> >> make sure the modules are properly structured and can operate
> autonomously.
> >> But this is a separate topic.
> >>
> >> I have a new idea on how to do the weekly communication of the ongoing
> >> module and projects:
> >>
> >> * We keep the weekly online page in devtalk for the weekly notes [1].
> >> * Developers keep adding their weekly reports there.
> >> * Everyone adds relevant announcements there
> >> * [new] Modules and projects then add their notes there as well,
> >> asynchronously.
> >> * [new] At the end of Mondays I do a final pass in the page and post it
> >> here.
> >>
> >> [1] - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/15-february-2021-upcoming/17475.
> >>
> >> Any feedback is welcome.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> -Dalai-
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Dalai Felinto - dalai at blender.org - www.blender.org
> >> Blender Development Coordinator
> >> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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