[Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 Released!

Fri Jun 11 16:44:40 CEST 2021

As for the "fancy" release notes. Not everything that is in the wiki shows
up there.

The communication team makes a selection on what is worth showing, what to
simply mention, and what to leave only to the wiki. The "Blender Features
in 5 minutes" and the reel editors also reverse the right to pick and
choose what is highlighted.

-Dalai-
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Blender Development Coordinator
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Op vr 11 jun. 2021 om 15:11 schreef Brecht Van Lommel via Bf-committers <
bf-committers at blender.org>:

> Personally, I wouldn't change this.
>
> Add-ons authors are credited in the add-on preferences, where you go to
> enable the add-on. The fact that they are bundled rather than installed
> from an online repository (which is what we should do eventually) makes
> little practical difference I think.
>
> For the release notes, I don't think we should be putting much emphasis on
> add-ons that often have a UI/UX and design different than core Blender,
> usually created by individuals without review. The freedom to do that
> creates very useful functionality and leads to fast development, but I
> wouldn't market that as part of Blender the product in the same way.
>
> The way I see it is that as an add-on author you get both the freedom and
> the responsibility for development, docs, and marketing. If anything we
> should decouple such things more, rather than integrating them.
>
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 6:07 AM Ryan Inch via Bf-committers <
> bf-committers at blender.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dalai,
> > I'm not talking about an add-on in particular, I'm referring to add-ons
> > in general.
> >
> > In regard to your first point, we are agreed that the credit gen script
> > is skipping add-ons; however, from what you've shown me, it looks like
> > it would be easy to support.  So I'm wondering why it is that add-ons
> > are being skipped and what can be done to correct it for the 2.93
> release?
> >
> > In regard to your second point, I am aware that it is the responsibility
> > of the developer to document changes in the wiki release notes, I do so
> > for every release, and I thank you for your willingness to help with any
> > problems accessing the wiki.  I was, however, referring to the fancier
> > release notes [1] that are compiled from the wiki release notes, and
> > that these have been lacking a section for add-ons recently.  So, what
> > is required to have an add-ons section added to the 'fancy' release
> notes?
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> > [1] https://www.blender.org/download/releases/2-93/
> >
> > On 2021-06-07 06:00 AM, bf-committers-request at blender.org wrote:
> > > Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 10:05:36 +0200
> > > From: Dalai Felinto<dalai at blender.org>
> > > To: bf-blender developers<bf-committers at blender.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 Released!
> > > Message-ID:
> > >       <CAKD4fWcP41W8FFQW+5Tc5cAEwY=
> > zavhavyzc5RWS4JbBG1M_KQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >
> > > Hi Ryan,
> > > Are you talking about an add-on in particular? There are two related
> but
> > > separate topics in your email:
> > >
> > > 1. Contributors credit
> > > The script that generates the credits [1] is indeed be skipping the
> > add-on
> > > repositories.
> > >
> > > 2. Release notes
> > > It is the responsibility of any developer that contributes code, to
> > > document the changes and mention them in the (wiki) release notes [2].
> If
> > > an add-on maintainer needs wiki access they can contact me directly via
> > > email or as dfelinto in blender.chat.
> > >
> > > [1] -
> > >
> >
> https://developer.blender.org/diffusion/BDT/browse/master/utils/credits_git_gen.py
> > > [2] -
> https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Release_Notes/2.93/Add-ons
> > >
> > > -Dalai-
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> > > Dalai Felinto -dalai at blender.org  -www.blender.org
> > > Blender Development Coordinator
> > > Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
> > >
> > >
> > > Op za 5 jun. 2021 om 07:10 schreef Ryan Inch via Bf-committers <
> > > bf-committers at blender.org>:
> > >
> > >> Congratulations on the release!  Everything looks good, there seems to
> > >> be tons of great improvements,
> > >> and the reels are quite impressive.
> > >>
> > >> However, I have noticed that Add-ons are treated differently in the
> > >> release notes.  Judging by the emails from the bf-extensions mailing
> > >> list, many of the Add-ons bundled with Blender receive dozens of
> updates
> > >> between each release, but this hasn't lately been advertised in the
> > >> release notes (aside from the occasional mention in @SouthernShotty's
> 5
> > >> minute videos, very grateful to him for that), plus the
> > >> authors/maintainers and their commits to these Add-ons don't seem to
> be
> > >> credited on the credits page[1].  Since the Add-ons are bundled with
> > >> Blender, is there a reason that they aren't credited at release?
> > >>
> > >> If the reason for this is, in part, that authors/maintainers aren't
> > >> adding their changes to the wiki version of the
> > >> release notes in time, then I would like to inquire as to when the
> > >> cutoff for editing the wiki is to make it into the
> > >> release notes, or what else could be done to have them included?
> > >>
> > >> Ryan Inch (Imaginer)
> > >> Developer of the Collection Manager Add-on.
> > >>
> > >> [1]https://www.blender.org/about/credits/
> > >>
> > >> On 2021-06-03 06:00 AM,bf-committers-request at blender.org  wrote:
> > >>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>
> > >>> Message: 1
> > >>> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 19:18:32 +0200
> > >>> From: Dalai Felinto<dalai at blender.org>
> > >>> To: bf-blender developers<bf-committers at blender.org>
> > >>> Subject: [Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 Released!
> > >>> Message-ID:
> > >>>        <
> > >> CAKD4fWfyVsXY6FTAZYpgUdjTnnxOw1fTEWsZA4J5kbuwjkNO6g at mail.gmail.com>
> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>> Blender 2.93 LTS is officially released.
> > >>>
> > >>> The release notes are here:
> > >>> https://www.blender.org/download/releases/2-93/
> > >>>
> > >>> You can check two great videos with everything 2.93 related:
> > >>> * Reel:https://youtu.be/fxNlpQYRz7s
> > >>> * Features:https://youtu.be/mnnMFJ3iWH0
> > >>>
> > >>> Congratulations everyone!
> > >>> -Dalai-
> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>> Dalai Felinto -dalai at blender.org  -www.blender.org
> > >>> Blender Development Coordinator
> > >>> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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