[Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 Released!

Fri Jun 11 15:11:21 CEST 2021

Personally, I wouldn't change this.

Add-ons authors are credited in the add-on preferences, where you go to
enable the add-on. The fact that they are bundled rather than installed
from an online repository (which is what we should do eventually) makes
little practical difference I think.

For the release notes, I don't think we should be putting much emphasis on
add-ons that often have a UI/UX and design different than core Blender,
usually created by individuals without review. The freedom to do that
creates very useful functionality and leads to fast development, but I
wouldn't market that as part of Blender the product in the same way.

The way I see it is that as an add-on author you get both the freedom and
the responsibility for development, docs, and marketing. If anything we
should decouple such things more, rather than integrating them.

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 6:07 AM Ryan Inch via Bf-committers <
bf-committers at blender.org> wrote:

> Hi Dalai,
> I'm not talking about an add-on in particular, I'm referring to add-ons
> in general.
>
> In regard to your first point, we are agreed that the credit gen script
> is skipping add-ons; however, from what you've shown me, it looks like
> it would be easy to support.  So I'm wondering why it is that add-ons
> are being skipped and what can be done to correct it for the 2.93 release?
>
> In regard to your second point, I am aware that it is the responsibility
> of the developer to document changes in the wiki release notes, I do so
> for every release, and I thank you for your willingness to help with any
> problems accessing the wiki.  I was, however, referring to the fancier
> release notes [1] that are compiled from the wiki release notes, and
> that these have been lacking a section for add-ons recently.  So, what
> is required to have an add-ons section added to the 'fancy' release notes?
>
> Ryan
>
> [1] https://www.blender.org/download/releases/2-93/
>
> On 2021-06-07 06:00 AM, bf-committers-request at blender.org wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 10:05:36 +0200
> > From: Dalai Felinto<dalai at blender.org>
> > To: bf-blender developers<bf-committers at blender.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 Released!
> > Message-ID:
> >       <CAKD4fWcP41W8FFQW+5Tc5cAEwY=
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> >
> > Hi Ryan,
> > Are you talking about an add-on in particular? There are two related but
> > separate topics in your email:
> >
> > 1. Contributors credit
> > The script that generates the credits [1] is indeed be skipping the
> add-on
> > repositories.
> >
> > 2. Release notes
> > It is the responsibility of any developer that contributes code, to
> > document the changes and mention them in the (wiki) release notes [2]. If
> > an add-on maintainer needs wiki access they can contact me directly via
> > email or as dfelinto in blender.chat.
> >
> > [1] -
> >
> https://developer.blender.org/diffusion/BDT/browse/master/utils/credits_git_gen.py
> > [2] -https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Release_Notes/2.93/Add-ons
> >
> > -Dalai-
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Dalai Felinto -dalai at blender.org  -www.blender.org
> > Blender Development Coordinator
> > Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
> >
> >
> > Op za 5 jun. 2021 om 07:10 schreef Ryan Inch via Bf-committers <
> > bf-committers at blender.org>:
> >
> >> Congratulations on the release!  Everything looks good, there seems to
> >> be tons of great improvements,
> >> and the reels are quite impressive.
> >>
> >> However, I have noticed that Add-ons are treated differently in the
> >> release notes.  Judging by the emails from the bf-extensions mailing
> >> list, many of the Add-ons bundled with Blender receive dozens of updates
> >> between each release, but this hasn't lately been advertised in the
> >> release notes (aside from the occasional mention in @SouthernShotty's 5
> >> minute videos, very grateful to him for that), plus the
> >> authors/maintainers and their commits to these Add-ons don't seem to be
> >> credited on the credits page[1].  Since the Add-ons are bundled with
> >> Blender, is there a reason that they aren't credited at release?
> >>
> >> If the reason for this is, in part, that authors/maintainers aren't
> >> adding their changes to the wiki version of the
> >> release notes in time, then I would like to inquire as to when the
> >> cutoff for editing the wiki is to make it into the
> >> release notes, or what else could be done to have them included?
> >>
> >> Ryan Inch (Imaginer)
> >> Developer of the Collection Manager Add-on.
> >>
> >> [1]https://www.blender.org/about/credits/
> >>
> >> On 2021-06-03 06:00 AM,bf-committers-request at blender.org  wrote:
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 19:18:32 +0200
> >>> From: Dalai Felinto<dalai at blender.org>
> >>> To: bf-blender developers<bf-committers at blender.org>
> >>> Subject: [Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 Released!
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>>        <
> >> CAKD4fWfyVsXY6FTAZYpgUdjTnnxOw1fTEWsZA4J5kbuwjkNO6g at mail.gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> Blender 2.93 LTS is officially released.
> >>>
> >>> The release notes are here:
> >>> https://www.blender.org/download/releases/2-93/
> >>>
> >>> You can check two great videos with everything 2.93 related:
> >>> * Reel:https://youtu.be/fxNlpQYRz7s
> >>> * Features:https://youtu.be/mnnMFJ3iWH0
> >>>
> >>> Congratulations everyone!
> >>> -Dalai-
> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Dalai Felinto -dalai at blender.org  -www.blender.org
> >>> Blender Development Coordinator
> >>> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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