[Bf-committers] Deprecation of Phabricator

[Dalai Felinto]

Hi Sebastian,

Which features you are referring to? CI/CD?

Thanks,
-Dalai-
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Dalai Felinto - dalai at blender.org - www.blender.org
Blender Development Coordinator
Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands


Op do 3 jun. 2021 om 18:43 schreef Sebastian Parborg via Bf-committers <
bf-committers at blender.org>:

> Just to keep everyone up to speed:
>
> We talked a bit more on blender.chat and currently we are a bit sceptical
> if we should go with gitlab as we might want to use some of its premium
> features. Those are not part of the open source core, so that means
> those are not free and open source software.
>
> Therefore we are still going to evaluate other alternatives as well and
> see which one gives us as much freedom and features as possible.
>
> Regards,
> Sebastian Parborg
>
> On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 11:26:35AM +0200, Ton Roosendaal via Bf-committers
> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I regularly have discussions with people around me about our
> > infrastructure. For as long Blender has been open source, almost 20
> > years, I've always pushed for the highest level of independence from
> > external service providers, specifically when it comes to our core
> > activities.
> >
> > That comes at a price though. I'm aware of the great set of tools that
> > are being offered by Github nowadays. They make a good product. But I
> > also see how such services take away essential freedoms from developers.
> > If your activities becomes cloud based (compiling, testing, debugging,
> > deploying) you allow a lot of control over your project by a third party.
> >
> > This doesn't make Github bad by itself, please use it if you wish. It
> > just means (for us) to keep the focus on our mission - which is to
> > further the freedom for everyone to make and use open source 3D
> > technology. That freedom applies to artists as well as developers. Or
> > said differently;
> >
> > - everyone should have the freedom to develop Blender and participate in
> > blender.org projects.
> >
> >  From the information I have, Gitlab seems to offer exactly what we need
> > for Blender to remain independent, keep up with the latest trends for
> > engineering and to offer this to an online community with a free/open
> > source license.
> >
> > I look forward to a further investigation of this topic. Meanwhile I can
> > reach out to Gitlab to check on what support they're willing to offer to
> us.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Ton-
> >
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> > Ton Roosendaal - ton at blender.org - www.blender.org
> > Chairman Blender Foundation, CEO Blender Institute / Studio
> > Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
> >
> >
> > On 31/05/2021 18:26, Sergey Sharybin via Bf-committers wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Just wanted to let everyone know that today Phacility announced that
> > > development of Phabricator is phasing out [1] [2].
> > >
> > > This does not affect the Blender project immediately, but we need to
> find a
> > > solution to the situation (be it a fork of Phabricator, or be it a
> > > migration to some other platform). There is no plan of action yet, it
> will
> > > be looked into in the coming time. We will keep you posted with
> updates on
> > > the topic.
> > >
> > > Would like to mention that Sebastian Parborg together with Dalai are
> > > working on a plan of action. At some point we'll share it with Blender
> > > developers, triagers, and the community. So don't be surprised :)
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> https://admin.phacility.com/phame/post/view/11/phacility_is_winding_down_operations/
> > > [2] https://secure.phabricator.com/
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > - Sergey -
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> > > Sergey Sharybin - sergey at blender.org - www.blender.org
> > > Principal Software Engineer, Blender
> > > Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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