[Bf-committers] Potentially moving from IRC to Blender.Chat

[Ray Molenkamp]

On 5/1/2019 5:18 AM, Pablo Vazquez wrote:
> You still need to create an account on freenode to chat in blendercoders.

You don't, we temporary turned that on a while ago when a botnet was
wreaking havoc on freenode, but in general that option is off and any
user registered or not can join and talk in #blendercoders

--Ray

On 5/1/2019 5:18 AM, Pablo Vazquez wrote:
>> - is wasting space when not logged in (It can be changed to "condensed
>> mode" but only when logged in it apears)
>>
> Compact view can be set to default if enough people agree.
>
>
>> - is slow: [1]
>>
> The version live in production now was right before an improvement that
> speeds up the load/opening of rooms quite substantially, we just need to
> update the docker image.
> https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat/pull/13417#issue-251549810
>
>
>> - is big: 4.3 MB for a simple chat app [2]
>>
> I'd trade a couple of MBs for built-in attachments, screen-sharing, video
> conferencing, audio message, email notifications, etc.
>
>
>> - is increasing the barrier to entry. Previously you could just use the
>> freenode web service to chat. Now you need to register for an account
>>
> You still need to create an account on freenode to chat in blendercoders.
> All you need in blender.chat is a Blender ID account which most Blender
> users have made for sites like devtalk, cloud, fund or network.
>
>
>> - has no mobile app for my phone version
>>
> It's available on Android and iOS.
>
>
>> - rocket.chat has 1.9k open issues on github, while IRC is battle-tested
>>
> Maybe you don't know how GitHub issues work? It's a bunch of tasks with
> labels. 355 of those are marked as bugs, some as design, some as feature
> proposals from 2015.
>
>
>> Also consider that there are people with slow phones/slow connections.
>> People who want better UI can always use riot.im, irccloud or any similar
>> service.
>>
> We looked into matrix when we started blender.chat over a year ago and it
> just didn't feel mature enough. Riot looks a lot better now than it did a
> year ago, I wouldn't mind giving it a try if there is people willing to
> help setting it up (rocket chat is literally just pulling a docker image).
> I personally don't mind if it's rocket chat or riot or whatever, I just
> like how much more accessible these apps make it to more people (there's a
> reason why people use Slack, Discord, etc.).
>
> Blender forums used phpBB, but we moved to Discourse.
> blender.org with Typo3 was fine, we moved to Wordpress.
> Remember projects.blender.org? we moved to Phabricator.
> We went from CVS to SVN to git.
>
> Moving *some* communication channels from IRC to something more media
> friendly for a 3D software shouldn't be so shocking.
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