[Bf-committers] Design process meeting notes - 2019.08.13

Brecht Van Lommel brechtvanlommel at gmail.com
Tue Aug 13 22:08:14 CEST 2019

Note we have been calling this the "user interface module", not
"design module". So to be clear, it's not some new module or team.

On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 9:17 PM Dalai Felinto <dfelinto at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> We had a meeting today about the design decision process in Blender.
> The design module was represented by William and Brecht.
> Participants: Brecht Van Lommel, Dalai Felinto, William Reynish
> August 13th, 2019
> A lot of the points here apply to the other modules as well. But since
> the design module spread throughout all Blender is important to also
> be the more clear in its communication process.
> Quick topics overview
> =================
> * Big picture
> * developer.blender.org
> * Buttons removal
> * Miscellaneous topics
> Big picture
> ========
> The design team helps us define the big picture. And this should
> always be properly documented so we can refer back to it. Without
> this, changes may be perceived as arbitrary personal preferences.
> When it comes to change the user interface to comply to these,
> however, the specific modules are to be involved directly as much as
> possible.
> developer.blender.org
> =================
> The tracker is still the place where all the design is presented.
> Though for the design process often chatting is important. It is a
> dance where we keep going back and forth between discussing things in
> our channels, reporting them back to the tracker, receive feedback
> there, and re-iterate.
> It is important though to keep the discussions concentrated as much as
> possible on the tracker, so they are not lost in blender.chat, emails,
> ... even if only to summarize what was discussed elsewhere. Though the
> more we can have the conversation there, more open it is.
> Buttons removal
> =============
> We had recently an episode where the first points here were rushed
> through leading to some disagreement on design decisions. This
> particular incident was related to the removal of buttons in the video
> sequence and text editors.
> This was a very isolated episode where the design behind these
> decisions wasn't well documented (and reviewed by a broader team).
> There is not much to add to this though. The autonomy we delegate to
> the modules may lead to surprises like this every now and then.
> Considering the sheer volume of the design team workload, I'm actually
> surprised these "polemics" don't come up more often. That said we will
> keep working to make sure the bigger picture and guidelines are more
> clearly communicated and signed of before we go down to the specific
> changes.
> Miscellaneous topics
> ================
> Since we were together we got over the short/medium term roadmaps for
> the design module and the current state of a few projects.
> 1. Video Sequence Editor, or, VSE - need a clear usability picture for
> the future. [The grease pencil team has a whole task dedicated to
> bring storyboarding into VSE, they are planning a meeting on that soon
> - T68321]
> 2. Collections I/O - during 2.80 we had some rough design for
> supporting I/O integrated with collections but we need to move this to
> the tracker [it is on Dalai's list].
> 3. Short term projects - Drag multiple objects, ... as the first
> project to follow the new module page format with papercuts and all,
> the design module has its hands full already.
> 4. Asset Manager - Bastien (Montagne) is in the institute. He will
> meet with Brecht about how to tackle it for future releases.
> 5. Particles / Everything Nodes - The current goal is to have some of
> it in 2.82. The focus is on delivering something solid as a start
> point, without getting lost on the project complex scope.
> 6. UI developer
> We once again acknowledged that we still need a dedicated UI
> developer. At the moment our UI developers are also our most senior
> developers. And we can't afford to fully allocate them for that.
> Best regards,
> Dalai
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