[Bf-committers] Potentially moving from IRC to Blender.Chat

[Simon Ge]

Hi,

I'd personally stick to IRC.
Blender.chat:
- is based on rocket.chat I guess.
- is wasting space when not logged in (It can be changed to "condensed mode" but only when logged in it apears)
- is slow: [1]
- is big: 4.3 MB for a simple chat app [2]
- is increasing the barrier to entry. Previously you could just use the freenode web service to chat. Now you need to register for an account
- has no mobile app for my phone version
- rocket.chat has 1.9k open issues on github, while IRC is battle-tested

Also consider that there are people with slow phones/slow connections.
People who want better UI can always use riot.im, irccloud or any similar service.
KDE had a similar discussion about the pro and cons of moving to rocket.chat [3]

Cheers
Simon

[1] https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?hl=de&url=https%3A%2F%2Fblender.chat%2Fchannel%2Fblender-coders&tab=mobile
[2] https://tools.pingdom.com/#5a9be5aa9fc00000
[3] https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-community/2017q3/003800.html
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Von: Bf-committers <bf-committers-bounces at blender.org> im Auftrag von Jaume Bellet <mauge at bixo.org>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. April 2019 20:47
An: bf-blender developers
Betreff: Re: [Bf-committers] Potentially moving from IRC to Blender.Chat

hi,

just a question about it, is owned and hosted by blender foundation?

El dt., 30 d’abr. 2019, 18:49, Dan McGrath <danmcgrath.ca at gmail.com> va
escriure:

> Hi,
>
> Maybe a good feature to have handy is the ability to ban email domains,
> possibly based on a regex, similar to how the mailing lists and postfix etc
> allow. Otherwise what happens is people will start to find free mail hosts,
> aside from Gmail and ones that have fairly good security already, and mass
> sign up.
>
>
> Dan
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 10:50 AM dr. Sybren A. Stüvel <sybren at stuvel.eu>
> wrote:
>
> > On 30-04-19 16:18, Ton Roosendaal wrote:
> > > - Are there good options to manage trolls and bans?
> >
> > Yes. We can ban user accounts on Blender.chat, and it's also harder to
> > create a new account on Blender ID than it is on FreeNode (you need
> > email verification). If it turns out to be necessary we can also invest
> > some time into adding Captchas and blocking of IP ranges to Blender ID.
> >
> > --
> > Sybren A. Stüvel
> >
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> > https://stuvel.eu/
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El dia 30 d’abr. 2019 18:49, "Dan McGrath" <danmcgrath.ca at gmail.com> va
escriure:

Hi,

Maybe a good feature to have handy is the ability to ban email domains,
possibly based on a regex, similar to how the mailing lists and postfix etc
allow. Otherwise what happens is people will start to find free mail hosts,
aside from Gmail and ones that have fairly good security already, and mass
sign up.


Dan

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 10:50 AM dr. Sybren A. Stüvel <sybren at stuvel.eu>
wrote:

> On 30-04-19 16:18, Ton Roosendaal wrote:
> > - Are there good options to manage trolls and bans?
>
> Yes. We can ban user accounts on Blender.chat, and it's also harder to
> create a new account on Blender ID than it is on FreeNode (you need
> email verification). If it turns out to be necessary we can also invest
> some time into adding Captchas and blocking of IP ranges to Blender ID.
>
> --
> Sybren A. Stüvel
>
> https://stuvelfoto.nl/
> https://stuvel.eu/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bf-committers mailing list
> Bf-committers at blender.org
> https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
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