[Bf-committers] Weekly meetings and communication channels

[Ton Roosendaal]

Hi,

Totally agree on this:

> Activity log: It would be nice if this helped users see what is being
> funded by the dev fund, cloud, etc.

Not to belittle contributions from volunteers (these are essential), but to invite more companies to hire developers or to support the foundation. A lot of essential development work is being done this way nowadays.

Laters,

-Ton-

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Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
Chairman Blender Foundation, Director Blender Institute
Entrepotdok 57A, 1018 AD, Amsterdam, the Netherlands

> On 1 Sep 2017, at 20:37, Brecht Van Lommel <brechtvanlommel at pandora.be> wrote:
> 
> Activity log: It would be nice if this helped users see what is being
> funded by the dev fund, cloud, etc.
> 
> Discourse: I wouldn't mind if this replaced mailing lists in the end. It
> seems mailing list archives can be imported and you can also interact with
> it through email.
> 
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Aaron Carlisle <carlisle.b3d at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> For a developer forum/general questions Phabricator as a feature called
>> Ponder https://secure.phabricator.com/ponder/
>> 
>> Aaron Carlisle
>> 
>> Picture taker | Bit cruncher | Pixel pusher | Document writer | Artist
>> Project administrator for the Blender 3D Documentation Project
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:22 AM, Campbell Barton <ideasman42 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Stefan Werner <stewreo at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> answers are inlined:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 28. Aug 2017, at 14:27, Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Proposal: alternate Monday meetings to be 10:00 and 18:00 Amsterdam
>>> time. Drop the Sunday meetings.
>>>> 
>>>> I like the alternating time idea, that should allow people from more
>>> time zones to participate.
>>>> Picking a right day is hard though - weekdays are good paid
>>> contributors, weekends better for volunteers.
>>>> 
>>>>> 1) Forums: (discourse)
>>>>> https://internals.rust-lang.org/categories <
>>> https://internals.rust-lang.org/categories>
>>>> 
>>>> Some kind of developer focussed forum is helpful, I would think. Right
>>> now, we’re abusing the bug tracker
>>>> as forum: https://developer.blender.org/T46258 <
>>> https://developer.blender.org/T46258>
>>> 
>>> This looks like proper tracker use to me, focused design tasks for
>>> planning is fine.
>>> 
>>> There are a few times I've seen people try and use tracker more like a
>>> forum for asking questions or submitting a patch which is really a
>>> question about code. I don't think its much of a problem.
>>> 
>>> Even so, could be nice to try out a forum for developers.
>>> 
>>>> Discussions like this don’t work at all on IRC and not very well in
>>> mailing lists.
>>>> 
>>>>> 2) Weekly activity log
>>>>> https://this-week-in-rust.org/ <https://this-week-in-rust.org/>
>>>> 
>>>> Helpful, we should do that.
>>> 
>>> While it would be nice, are people interested to write/manage this?
>>> 
>>> Maybe best to do a trial-run for ~5 weeks or so, continue if it's working
>>> out.
>>> 
>>>>> 4) No mailing lists!
>>>>> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/rust-dev/2015-January/011558.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now I don't think we need to drop mailing lists, but the forums and
>>> activity log sound great.
>>>>> Discourse also might help making our onboarding process better.
>>>> 
>>>> If we use a web based forum, please let’s pick one that works well on
>>> mobile devices
>>>> (including the ones that are not the latest and greatest) and sends
>>> server-side generated
>>>> static HTML. Responding to email on a smartphone is quick and easy and
>>> works even when
>>>> you have a terrible connection. “Modern” HTML pages sometimes require
>>> several MB
>>>> just to display essentially a couple of paragraphs of text.
>>>> 
>>>> For example, one of the forums I visit sometimes runs on nodeBB. Just
>>> the forum start page
>>>> comes in at 1.17MB. That’s ridiculous and I pretty much never read it
>> on
>>> my phone. BA, even
>>>> with the features images, is only half as big, simple phpBB sites come
>>> in at 300kB. Plain text
>>>> contents of these pages is just a few kB, the rest is mostly decoration
>>> and oh-so-useful features
>>>> nobody uses.
>>>> 
>>>> I know, we need to have fast connections to begin with (wouldn’t want
>> to
>>> git clone over GPRS)
>>>> but I like to make my time on the road useful too. From here to BConf
>> is
>>> roughly 7 hours on a train
>>>> that promises WIFI but doesn’t always deliver. Don’t want to let that
>>> time go to waste.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Did you look into https://try.discourse.org ?
>>> 
>>>> -Stefan
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>>> 
>>> 
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