[Bf-committers] Weekly meetings and communication channels

Brecht Van Lommel brechtvanlommel at pandora.be
Fri Sep 1 20:37:40 CEST 2017


Activity log: It would be nice if this helped users see what is being
funded by the dev fund, cloud, etc.

Discourse: I wouldn't mind if this replaced mailing lists in the end. It
seems mailing list archives can be imported and you can also interact with
it through email.

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Aaron Carlisle <carlisle.b3d at gmail.com>
wrote:

> For a developer forum/general questions Phabricator as a feature called
> Ponder https://secure.phabricator.com/ponder/
>
> Aaron Carlisle
>
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>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:22 AM, Campbell Barton <ideasman42 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Stefan Werner <stewreo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > answers are inlined:
> > >
> > >> On 28. Aug 2017, at 14:27, Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Proposal: alternate Monday meetings to be 10:00 and 18:00 Amsterdam
> > time. Drop the Sunday meetings.
> > >
> > > I like the alternating time idea, that should allow people from more
> > time zones to participate.
> > > Picking a right day is hard though - weekdays are good paid
> > contributors, weekends better for volunteers.
> > >
> > >> 1) Forums: (discourse)
> > >> https://internals.rust-lang.org/categories <
> > https://internals.rust-lang.org/categories>
> > >
> > > Some kind of developer focussed forum is helpful, I would think. Right
> > now, we’re abusing the bug tracker
> > > as forum: https://developer.blender.org/T46258 <
> > https://developer.blender.org/T46258>
> >
> > This looks like proper tracker use to me, focused design tasks for
> > planning is fine.
> >
> > There are a few times I've seen people try and use tracker more like a
> > forum for asking questions or submitting a patch which is really a
> > question about code. I don't think its much of a problem.
> >
> > Even so, could be nice to try out a forum for developers.
> >
> > > Discussions like this don’t work at all on IRC and not very well in
> > mailing lists.
> > >
> > >> 2) Weekly activity log
> > >> https://this-week-in-rust.org/ <https://this-week-in-rust.org/>
> > >
> > > Helpful, we should do that.
> >
> > While it would be nice, are people interested to write/manage this?
> >
> > Maybe best to do a trial-run for ~5 weeks or so, continue if it's working
> > out.
> >
> > >> 4) No mailing lists!
> > >> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/rust-dev/2015-January/011558.html
> > >>
> > >> Now I don't think we need to drop mailing lists, but the forums and
> > activity log sound great.
> > >> Discourse also might help making our onboarding process better.
> > >
> > > If we use a web based forum, please let’s pick one that works well on
> > mobile devices
> > > (including the ones that are not the latest and greatest) and sends
> > server-side generated
> > > static HTML. Responding to email on a smartphone is quick and easy and
> > works even when
> > > you have a terrible connection. “Modern” HTML pages sometimes require
> > several MB
> > > just to display essentially a couple of paragraphs of text.
> > >
> > > For example, one of the forums I visit sometimes runs on nodeBB. Just
> > the forum start page
> > > comes in at 1.17MB. That’s ridiculous and I pretty much never read it
> on
> > my phone. BA, even
> > > with the features images, is only half as big, simple phpBB sites come
> > in at 300kB. Plain text
> > > contents of these pages is just a few kB, the rest is mostly decoration
> > and oh-so-useful features
> > > nobody uses.
> > >
> > > I know, we need to have fast connections to begin with (wouldn’t want
> to
> > git clone over GPRS)
> > > but I like to make my time on the road useful too. From here to BConf
> is
> > roughly 7 hours on a train
> > > that promises WIFI but doesn’t always deliver. Don’t want to let that
> > time go to waste.
> > >
> >
> > Did you look into https://try.discourse.org ?
> >
> > > -Stefan
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> >
> >
> > --
> > - Campbell
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