[Bf-committers] GSoC mentor summit

[Jon Denning]

I am a CS prof at a university, teaching data structures, algorithms,
computer graphics, vision, etc.

I would be happy to put up posters here, too!



-Jon Denning

"The walls between art and engineering exist only in our mind, and few have
the imagination to see beyond them."  -Theo Jansen

"When you wish to achieve results that have not been achieved before, it is
an unwise fancy to think that they can be achieved by using methods that
have been used before."  -Sir Francis Bacon

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Davis Sorenson <davis.sorenson at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Re: Universities not knowing about GSoC, I would be happy to put up posters
> advertising Blender's GSoC at local universities, if someone would make
> one.
>
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Last week I attended the Google Summer of Code Mentor summit.
> > 149 orgs, 320-something people attended. It took place at Google's Tech
> > Corners, a new campus in Sunnyvale.
> >
> > I attended a couple of sessions, but most of the time I spent meeting
> with
> > all the other open source organisations out here. It was great to talk
> with
> > developers from VLC (they love our movies, want 3D stereo 4k movie, I
> asked
> > for better frame stepping and scrubbing) Inkscape (small team, stable sw,
> > they need OSX coder), Appleseed render (mostly Max/Maya users,
> > photorealistic focus), FreeCAD (we should work with them on 1-click
> export
> > from FreeCad to Eevee), Samba, Libre Office (they work on a Google docs
> > version), KDE, Python (next year 3.0 will be really official!), FFmpg
> > (Blender should upgrade to latest they say), Django, Zulip Chat
> > (interesting hybrid of chat+forum+mail), etc etc.
> >
> > Blender is well regarded and well known in FOS circles. I met with
> several
> > Blender users there, even one who supported the "free Blender" campaign
> in
> > 2002!
> >
> > In general our own experience with GSoC is quite similar to what other
> > orgs had. Some notes:
> >
> > - In average it looks like our GSoC projects are too complex. It can also
> > be more simple like "dive in module X, bring it back to spec (+ update
> API
> > docs) and solve or find the bugs".
> > - Good students will always find things to do anyway. A simpler project
> > definition can easily lead to bigger projects - students get paid for
> their
> > time, not the target.
> > - Many orgs had problems finding good students. Still a lot of noise from
> > fake proposals come in.
> > - Universities (especially with specialist departments) are not much
> aware
> > of GSoC, or not aware that students can do specialist work with highly
> > qualified mentors.
> > - Next time, the moment you get slots we should immediately assign
> > students. You can always swap or release. It's a bit of a game now - the
> > first org who picks a student will get it (students are not allowed to
> > know).
> > - Efficient spending of mentor time is essential. Don't mentor a student
> > when you could code it all yourself like in a few days.
> > - One org (forgot who) had an interesting mentoring approach. "We don't
> > take any initiative ourselves - we wait for what the student comes with.
> If
> > the student doesn't convince us in the first month, we just don't pass
> > him/her.
> >
> > Feedback sessions with Google's open source office:
> > - In 2018, a student can submit max 3 proposals. Might give less noise.
> > - Good on-boarding for free/open source projects is essential. It's not a
> > part of GSoC to have students work on that, but it's a crucial feature
> for
> > a successful GSoC. Google checks on ways to support orgs with this.
> > - Tip for the ideas page: intro video(s)! You know, modern times, people
> > don't read :)
> > - Assigning two or three mentors per student is much appreciated
> >
> > Our main action point for a successful 2018 GSoC would be to have an
> > active campaign targeted at universities with strong CG education (to
> > attract phd students too). And as second action point to already start
> > recruiting now - students who are currently getting involved should be
> > aware of the GSoC opportunity.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Ton-
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
> > Chairman Blender Foundation, Director Blender Institute
> > Entrepotdok 57A, 1018 AD, Amsterdam, the Netherlands
> >
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