[Bf-committers] Eevee and BGE proposal.

[Jacob Merrill]

For logic for interactive mode, what about applying something like pgi
logic nodes to both engines, but adding the ability to nest folders with
in/outs to be able to segment and fold complexity?

Pgi nodes were pretty nice, can they be compiled or rewritten in C?

https://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?393954-Logic-Nodes-Addon-(Installing-and-getting-started)-BGE-Tutorial

On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 1:04 PM, tristan porteries <
republicthunderbolt9 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Dalai,
>
> Sorry, i want to clarify your question: When you talk about material
> update, it's the update of node values or totally something else ? Also the
> BGE will never modify the node tree of a material so we don't have to
> manage the material creation. At the end the only think we need currently
> for update is a GPUMaterial or GPUShader and a node list for your new
> system.
>
> About probes, we already developed in UPBGE planar and cube probes, i hope
> we could adapt them. For the irradiance/grid probe i have to check deeper.
>
> Tristan.
>
> 2017-07-17 18:43 GMT+02:00 Dalai Felinto <dfelinto at gmail.com>:
>
> > Hi Tristan,
> >
> > Can you elaborate on how do you plan handling updates for the Eevee
> > materials and probes?
> > Right now this all goes via the depsgraph.
> >
> > Perhaps we could talk Tuesday morning (10am or 11am CEST) on IRC with
> > Sergey to get this sorted out once and for all.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dalai
> > --
> > blendernetwork.org/dalai-felinto
> > www.dalaifelinto.com
> >
> >
> > 2017-07-14 15:29 GMT+02:00 tristan porteries <republicthunderbolt9 at gmail.
> > com>:
> > > Hello Dalai,
> > >
> > > The proposal is to use Eevee in BGE, it looks simple but it requests
> > > refactors in the BGE sources.
> > >
> > > The usage of draw engine based on Eevee help to not interfere the eevee
> > ->
> > > blender side, the idea of common API can be forgotten and replaced by a
> > > little number of duplicated functions if it is too complicated in
> futur.
> > >
> > > I think that the debate about interative mode is for an other proposal,
> > > implementing eevee in BGE will not exclude the interactive mode, doing
> > the
> > > both in same time can be very messy.
> > >
> > > Tristan.
> > >
> > > 2017-07-11 15:37 GMT+02:00 Jacob Merrill <blueprintrandom1 at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > >> Step 1 in such a scenario, is a realtime switch for rendering and
> > running
> > >> the game loop.
> > >>
> > >> What about getting evee running, and upgrading viewport with new logic
> > >> system, and after evee is integrated, integrate same logic systems
> into
> > >> BGE?
> > >>
> > >> Maybe Bullet3 or even pyBullet based?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Jul 11, 2017 5:54 AM, "Dalai Felinto" <dfelinto at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi Tristan,
> > >> > Thanks for writing this. Sergey and I just finished looking at it.
> > >> >
> > >> > The proposal is missing a big picture. What is it trying to achieve?
> > >> > It seems to simply try to bring Eevee materials into BGE, without
> any
> > >> > extra benefit.
> > >> >
> > >> > If that’s the only goal of this project, I would at least expect it
> to
> > >> > not interfere with the rest of Blender. For example, the idea of
> > >> > changing Eevee to accommodate to a common API seems not ideal.
> > >> >
> > >> > That said, we have an opportunity to do something bigger. Which
> would
> > >> > be to integrate interactivity with the rest of Blender. That’s a
> > >> > bigger undertake for sure, but I was under the impression that this
> > >> > was the original idea for after 2.7. It’s not clear if this was
> > >> > considered, or why was it dismissed.
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards,
> > >> > Dalai and Sergey
> > >> > --
> > >> > blendernetwork.org/dalai-felinto
> > >> > www.dalaifelinto.com
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > 2017-07-02 12:23 GMT+02:00 tristan porteries
> > <republicthunderbolt9 at gmail.
> > >> > com>:
> > >> > > Hello everyone,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I invite the people working on Eevee and 2.8 (Campbell, Dalai,
> > Bastien,
> > >> > > Clement, Mike and few other) to look at the following proposal
> for a
> > >> > merge
> > >> > > of Eevee into the BGE.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpC2zCVD54yCGwNZFu_WM82uUAGI_
> > >> > s5-GmlgMLOcfYY/edit?usp=sharing
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Feel free to comment on the document, also an experimental branch
> > named
> > >> > > ge_eevee is available on https://github.com/UPBGE/blender.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Tristan.
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