[Bf-committers] Policy for decision making process

Bastien Montagne montagne29 at wanadoo.fr
Sat Jul 16 15:35:18 CEST 2016


Fully agree as well, nothing to add to previous mails at this point. :)


Le 16/07/2016 à 15:23, Brecht Van Lommel a écrit :
> Agreed. I think even if some discussions are more efficient to do on
> IRC, offline, ..., the rationale for technical decisions should always
> end up archived on developer.blender.org and should not be presented
> as a a foregone conclusion, though in the end the module owners or
> project maintainers decide of course.
>
> Personally I would also like to see developers use
> developer.blender.org or wiki.blender.org always for presenting design
> docs, instead of Google docs, blogs, github repos, or other formats
> that are sometimes used. Or at least add a developer.blender.org task
> were updates are posted and which people can subscribe to. Often it's
> difficult to be even aware something is going.
>
> We definitely need to do a better job of communicating roadmaps and
> plans, not as promises to users but for developers to be able to get
> involved more easily and avoid surprises when people submit patches
> that don't fit the plans the module owners have in mind.
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Sergey Sharybin <sergey.vfx at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> While i see that some level of private communication is needed when dealing
>> with studios who doesnt' do Open Movies to understand their workflow better
>> and such, that's where private commuication ends IMO. All the technical
>> details of both short and long terms of Blender development should be moved
>> to piblic. This also includes all the roadmaps and such.
>>
>> I agree with Campbell that it should be formalized and put in a way that we
>> communicate development in public.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Joel Godin <joelgodin at ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Amen.  I think that's what 'open' in 'open source' is supposed to mean.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      On Saturday, July 16, 2016 3:16 AM, Campbell Barton <
>>> ideasman42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   Hi, recently a private group was setup for Blender developers and
>>> professional users
>>> with active developers receiving invites (unofficial, unrelated to the
>>> Blender-Foundation/Institute).
>>>
>>> While there nothing wrong with people setting up their own private
>>> communication channels,
>>> it raises a concern regarding decision making policy.
>>>
>>> So far we have been quite informal in our development process without
>>> minimal rules & policy documents.
>>> Its even possible we discussed this already, but I couldn't find any
>>> information on it, only [0] which doesn't cover very much.
>>>
>>> I'd be more comfortable that developers are part of private groups
>>> like this if we had a policy similar to the Apache software project,
>>> that is:
>>>
>>>   "Project technical decisions MUST be made and communicated on public
>>> and archived places." [1]
>>>
>>> This is formalizing what we're already doing (for the most part), on
>>> the mailing lists and developer.blender.org.
>>>
>>> I'm proposing to update our policy document to include this text.
>>>
>>>
>>> [0]: https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Doc/Projects/Policy
>>> [1]: https://www.apache.org/dev/project-requirements#governance (second
>>> point)
>>>
>>> --
>>> - Campbell
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>>
>> --
>> With best regards, Sergey Sharybin
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