[Bf-committers] Windows XP support

matmenu matmenu at live.fr
Sat Jan 30 19:25:30 CET 2016

Find me someone that used Blender on a linux distro one year long 
without solving several problems with the command line.

Still today, the Linux distro which is seen as the most user-friendly:

Dataloss on the most stable Linux Distro:

And this are just some quick googling results. You can find much better 

All the solutions proposed use the command line. I used Linux for more 
than 10 years. Not a single year I could get all my apps and drivers in 
their latest version without googling, posting on forum and using the 
command line. Not speaking about the fun due to conflicts in the 
libraries when you add to many repos, breaking other pass, etc.
You can of course still believe that the 8% of Blender user under Linux 
is due to people using the version 2.69 of Blender that is in their repo 
or that all graphic artists on Linux have the time and skills to 
compile  Blender themselves. On Windows, you download, double click the 
installer or just unpack the archive and it just works.
Note that I would be happy to see Linux as a serious alternative, but 
it's still reserved to a small passionate community due to the final 
polish not being done. 95% is there, but time is spend compiling the 
same program 100x times for the 100s of distros and making 10 
alternative of a video/music player/text editor/whatever, helping to 
post command line solutions on 20 different forums instead of fixing 
upstream once and for all. Creating new file systems with hash 
collisions leading to security risk and data loss (BtrFS). In 2015 not 
supporting NTFS completly (https://wimlib.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4).
And most people on earth can't afford a new PC every 10 years.

On 30/01/2016 15:25, Knapp wrote:
> If your computer is so old that it is running XP then you will have
> problems with most advanced features that expect you to have a powerful
> computer. If the XP users really must use his old computer and he wants new
> features that are not supported and he has internet then he can download a
> new and modern Linux lite distro and run the newest Blender. It is not like
> we are even locking out poor people by dropping XP support.
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 12:15 AM, Martijn Berger <martijn.berger at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi Mike,
>> I am pretty sure it either works or can be made to work pretty easy.
>> Martijn
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 10:39 PM, Mike Erwin <significant.bit at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Sebastian A. Brachi <
>>> sebastianbrachi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> What newer APIs do we want to use but are being held back by XP?
>>>> What about Python 3.5, which doesn't support XP anymore?
>>>> As specified in PEP 11, a Python release only supports a Windows
>> platform
>>>>> while Microsoft considers the platform under extended support. This
>>> means
>>>>> that Python 3.5 supports Windows Vista and newer. If you require
>>> Windows
>>>> XP
>>>>> support then please install Python 3.4.
>>>> https://docs.python.org/3/using/windows.html
>>> If Python stops working that's a BIG reason to move on. If unsupported
>>> means "works, but don't expect support"... it's not as urgent.
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