[Bf-committers] Proposal - new meeting schedule for 2016

Ton Roosendaal ton at blender.org
Fri Jan 1 17:59:45 CET 2016


Hi,

Ah, it worked! 
I used the little [+] button in the bottom. Google adds it converted to my timezone.

Thanks,

-Ton-

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Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands



> On 31 Dec, 2015, at 19:26, Nicholas Rishel <rishel.nick at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ton,
> 
> The calendar I linked should convert to your local time if you add it to
> Google Calendar. Could you try to add the one I linked to see if it handles
> time conversions correctly? (Calendar ID:
> cqqj4ohm2oaeceenhmghbf28t8 at group.calendar.google.com) If you think it's
> appropriate I can change the default timezone displayed - the timezone
> displayed on that page I linked.
> 
> I think it would be best to encourage using a centralized, shared calendar
> for anything more complex than a repeated time and day. It would have two
> main benefits: only one person would need to update the calendar for
> everyone's calendar to be correct, and it removes the tedious task of
> figuring out how to handle time zones in your calendar app of choice. If
> you'd like I could give you editing permissions.
> 
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 11:47 AM Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It was very simple to add in Google Calendar:
>> 
>> 1) Press "Create" button on left/top
>> 2) Choose to use a timezone for the event.
>> 3) Pick USA, then Pacific time
>> 4) Set to 10 AM, 9th of month, to repeat monthly.
>> 
>> Repeat for Netherlands (18th) and Australia (27th).
>> 
>> Here it nicely corrects for the daylight savings even!
>> 
>> -Ton-
>> 
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
>> Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
>> Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 31 Dec, 2015, at 17:21, Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Nicholas,
>>> 
>>> This seems to only work for New York time?
>>> I was studying on a nice simple diagram too. Nice to look at in a couple
>> of days.
>>> 
>>> Just for now - next meeting is on the 9th at 10 AM Los Angeles time.
>>> 
>>> And a happy 2016 for everyone!
>>> 
>>> -Ton-
>>> 
>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>> Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
>>> Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
>>> Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 30 Dec, 2015, at 21:13, Nicholas Rishel <rishel.nick at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Since the new schedule isn't as predictable as weekly on a Sunday I
>> spun up
>>>> a quick Google Calendar
>>>> <
>> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=cqqj4ohm2oaeceenhmghbf28t8%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/New_York
>>> 
>>>> .
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 4:16 PM xglasyliax . <xgl.asyliax at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello folks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven't actively done any coding for Blender since Tears of Steel, so
>>>>> perhaps I'm more well known as the FreeBSD build guy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> One of the major difficulties I faced while trying to code anything
>>>>> significant to Blender was in fact the time zone issue. (I'm in the
>> same
>>>>> timezone as Chicago, IL USA)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Weekly meetings were/are always during Church for me, so I was never to
>>>>> attend them. It also proved difficult that during my most
>> free/productive
>>>>> "after work" hours, many of the devs were no longer available via IRC
>> due
>>>>> to it being middle of the night for the bulk of them. I distinctly
>> recall
>>>>> it being tough enough that when Campbell took over for me the coding
>> of a
>>>>> part I was working on, it came as nothing but a huge relief. This was
>> due
>>>>> to my inability to discuss things during hours conducive to the
>> majority of
>>>>> devs. Perhaps that was partially just my limited view of the times,
>> and my
>>>>> lack of knowledge of who I could ask questions to about certain parts
>> of
>>>>> code, but it was a real difficulty for me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, now we get this very exciting email about meeting rotation...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Being able to attend weekly/bi-weekly meetings would be wonderful!
>> This new
>>>>> schedule would be a big difference maker for me personally, and it's
>> the
>>>>> most exciting email (for me) in the bf-commiters mail in a long time.
>> I do
>>>>> read them all, and long for the days when I was helping contribute to
>>>>> Blender something more significant than compiling a binary every once
>> in a
>>>>> while.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you Ton and the Blender community.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2015-12-29 13:00 GMT-06:00 Bastien Montagne <montagne29 at wanadoo.fr>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yep, also for trying that, sounds more fair for non-european people!
>> :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Le 29/12/2015 19:18, Ton Roosendaal a écrit :
>>>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Super! Let's wait a day for more feedback, but it looks like most
>>>>> people
>>>>>> are into trying this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Ton-
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
>>>>>>> Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
>>>>>>> Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 29 Dec, 2015, at 15:34, Jonathan Williamson <
>> jonathan at cgcookie.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I quite like this plan. It may prove to be a bit difficult to keep
>>>>>> track of the shifting meeting times, but if only joining two a month
>> then
>>>>>> it wouldn't be too bad.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It would certainly make it easier for a lot of people to join at
>> least
>>>>>> the one in their region.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm happy to chair the LA meeting.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Here's a fun diagram comparing local times on 5 places in the
>> world.
>>>>>>>>> Easy to see how it's impossible to define a meeting time where
>>>>>> everyone can attend.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> http://www.worldtimeserver.com/meeting-planner-times.aspx?&L0=US-CA&Day=29&Mon=12&Y=2015&L1=US-NY&L2=NL&L3=IN&L4=AU-NSW&L5=&L6=&L7=
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Ton-
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (And sorry for typos in my mail, I didn't check it well before
>>>>> sending)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
>>>>>>>>> Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
>>>>>>>>> Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 29 Dec, 2015, at 13:14, Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If you look at the Developer Top 22 I posted, you can see that
>>>>>> Blender lacks active contributors from the Americas... Canada, USA,
>>>>> Centra
>>>>>> and South America are not represented as much it could.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> For that reason I would propse to test a new meeting schedule for
>>>>>> 2016. A fun rotating schedule.
>>>>>>>>>> At least try it a month!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The meeting concept is based on these simple assumptions:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> - Have less meetings, two per month should be enough to attend.
>>>>>>>>>> - Cluster time zones in three sections - LA, Amsterdam, Sydney
>>>>>>>>>> - For each time zone section, we organize one meeting per month
>> at a
>>>>>> fixed day at 10 AM.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> These 10 AM meetings would be:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> - LA: 9th of month
>>>>>>>>>> - AMS: 18th of month
>>>>>>>>>> - SYD: 27th of month.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> These times are fixed, local, and stay same independent of
>> daylight
>>>>>> savings. Attendants in other timezones will have to check what's the
>>>>>> matching local time in order to attend.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> For January, the timing table then looks as follows:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jEooASg01BMply2DrI19-KDo62YQ4c_UAboH8-1oCMQ/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I would also like to invite one of the active Americans to chair
>> the
>>>>>> monthly "LA time" meeting.
>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Williamson, would you be available? I can backup :)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -Ton-
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
>>>>>>>>>> Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
>>>>>>>>>> Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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