[Bf-committers] Current state of Blender's user experience

[TARDIS Maker]

>
> That is why they are called conventions, so people would or should not
> break them.  Conventions should not be broken!
>


I'm probably not really qualified to be saying this, but in my opinion, if
we aren't willing to question things (conventions), then we aren't really
going to get anywhere. Sometimes conventions work really well. But there
are always cases where they can be improved upon, and if we aren't willing
to question them, than the UI won't be any better than any of the industry
standards.

Should we be starting with industry standards? Maybe, but Blender already
has it's own standards. I think it would be much better to be looking at it
from the perspective of what would work in Blender, instead of, here are
the industry standards and conventions, time to implement them all. As it's
been said before, Maya is Maya, 3DS Max is 3DS Max, and Blender is Blender.
They're all separate pieces of software, and they can all make their own
choices as to what standards they're going to comply to.

Again, I'm not really qualified to be saying this, (I'm a 15 year old in
his mothers basement who sometimes uses Blender), but I thought I'd throw
it out there.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Doeke Wartena <doeke.wartena at gmail.com>
wrote:

> After so many years I stopped following conventions,
> java conventions tell me to use CammelCase.
> I think someone without understanding of typography came up with that.
> IThinkSomeoneWithoutUnderstandingOfTypographyCameUpWithThat.
> I_think_someone_without_understanding_of_typography_came_up_with_that.
>
> 2016-04-28 14:19 GMT+02:00 blubee blubeeme <gurenchan at gmail.com>:
>
> > To all complaining about standards and conventions, have any of you
> > actually submitted any code to blender, even for review?
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016, 20:17 Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Wrong link!
> > > https://twitter.com/tonroosendaal/status/725659831978315776
> > >
> > > -Ton-
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------
> > > Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
> > > Chairman Blender Foundation, Producer Blender Institute/Studio
> > > Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
> > >
> > > > On 28 Apr 2016, at 14:13, Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Here's a quote from the famous Dutch painter Mondrian on a wall in a
> > > train station here:
> > > > https://twitter.com/tonroosendaal/status/725658288638025728
> > > >
> > > > A great life motto. :)
> > > >
> > > > -Ton-
> > > >
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
> > > > Chairman Blender Foundation, Producer Blender Institute/Studio
> > > > Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
> > > >
> > > >> On 28 Apr 2016, at 13:59, hewi jupama <hewi at jupama.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> All,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I promised myself not to post before I got "things done", but it is
> > > stronger than me
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>> Blender is "a bit different" and breaks some conventions
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> That is why they are called conventions, so people would or should
> not
> > > break them.  Conventions should not be broken!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>> changes to the usual ways of doing stuff, but I think that is also
> > > where lies its biggest strength.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Deciding to make the **** click to select, really slows users down.
> > > Not only beginners, but also more experienced users.  This is not a
> > > strength :(
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>> Ordered by Rating:
> > > >>
> > > >>>> ------------------------------------------
> > > >>
> > > >>>> 1.
> > > >>
> > > >>>> 2. UI does not comply to industry quasi standards.
> > > >>
> > > >>>> 3.
> > > >>
> > > >>>> 4.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Mmmmmh, maybe you should stick to conventions and usual ways of
> doing
> > > things.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>> with too many inactive stakeholders and not enough active
> > > contributors.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> However dedicated and passionate I am about blender and it's code,
> > > however much I would like to 'be bored to bits on this desolated island
> > and
> > > finally have nothing else to do but stamp code', however much I would
> > like
> > > to get ideas and my support out there, however much I would really want
> > to
> > > finally commit my first bug fix, ... inevitably and unfortunately it is
> > > very hard to combine with full time personal/professional life (and the
> > > many other projects).  Just to say that, even though sometimes we are
> > > silent and seemingly inactive, we are still actively contributing (even
> > > though maybe not in hard code) :)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>> It's Ton, not Tom. ;)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> lol
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> regards
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Hewi
> > > >>
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