[Bf-committers] Proposal - new meeting schedule for 2016

Thu Dec 31 19:26:08 CET 2015

Ton,

The calendar I linked should convert to your local time if you add it to
Google Calendar. Could you try to add the one I linked to see if it handles
time conversions correctly? (Calendar ID:
cqqj4ohm2oaeceenhmghbf28t8 at group.calendar.google.com) If you think it's
appropriate I can change the default timezone displayed - the timezone
displayed on that page I linked.

I think it would be best to encourage using a centralized, shared calendar
for anything more complex than a repeated time and day. It would have two
main benefits: only one person would need to update the calendar for
everyone's calendar to be correct, and it removes the tedious task of
figuring out how to handle time zones in your calendar app of choice. If
you'd like I could give you editing permissions.

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 11:47 AM Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It was very simple to add in Google Calendar:
>
> 1) Press "Create" button on left/top
> 2) Choose to use a timezone for the event.
> 3) Pick USA, then Pacific time
> 4) Set to 10 AM, 9th of month, to repeat monthly.
>
> Repeat for Netherlands (18th) and Australia (27th).
>
> Here it nicely corrects for the daylight savings even!
>
> -Ton-
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
> Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
> Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
>
>
>
> > On 31 Dec, 2015, at 17:21, Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nicholas,
> >
> > This seems to only work for New York time?
> > I was studying on a nice simple diagram too. Nice to look at in a couple
> of days.
> >
> > Just for now - next meeting is on the 9th at 10 AM Los Angeles time.
> >
> > And a happy 2016 for everyone!
> >
> > -Ton-
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
> > Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
> > Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 30 Dec, 2015, at 21:13, Nicholas Rishel <rishel.nick at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Since the new schedule isn't as predictable as weekly on a Sunday I
> spun up
> >> a quick Google Calendar
> >> <
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=cqqj4ohm2oaeceenhmghbf28t8%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/New_York
> >
> >> .
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 4:16 PM xglasyliax . <xgl.asyliax at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello folks.
> >>>
> >>> I haven't actively done any coding for Blender since Tears of Steel, so
> >>> perhaps I'm more well known as the FreeBSD build guy.
> >>>
> >>> One of the major difficulties I faced while trying to code anything
> >>> significant to Blender was in fact the time zone issue. (I'm in the
> same
> >>> timezone as Chicago, IL USA)
> >>>
> >>> Weekly meetings were/are always during Church for me, so I was never to
> >>> attend them. It also proved difficult that during my most
> free/productive
> >>> "after work" hours, many of the devs were no longer available via IRC
> due
> >>> to it being middle of the night for the bulk of them. I distinctly
> recall
> >>> it being tough enough that when Campbell took over for me the coding
> of a
> >>> part I was working on, it came as nothing but a huge relief. This was
> due
> >>> to my inability to discuss things during hours conducive to the
> majority of
> >>> devs. Perhaps that was partially just my limited view of the times,
> and my
> >>> lack of knowledge of who I could ask questions to about certain parts
> of
> >>> code, but it was a real difficulty for me.
> >>>
> >>> So, now we get this very exciting email about meeting rotation...
> >>>
> >>> Being able to attend weekly/bi-weekly meetings would be wonderful!
> This new
> >>> schedule would be a big difference maker for me personally, and it's
> the
> >>> most exciting email (for me) in the bf-commiters mail in a long time.
> I do
> >>> read them all, and long for the days when I was helping contribute to
> >>> Blender something more significant than compiling a binary every once
> in a
> >>> while.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you Ton and the Blender community.
> >>>
> >>> 2015-12-29 13:00 GMT-06:00 Bastien Montagne <montagne29 at wanadoo.fr>:
> >>>
> >>>> Yep, also for trying that, sounds more fair for non-european people!
> :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Le 29/12/2015 19:18, Ton Roosendaal a écrit :
> >>>>> Hi Jonathan,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Super! Let's wait a day for more feedback, but it looks like most
> >>> people
> >>>> are into trying this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Ton-
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
> >>>>> Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
> >>>>> Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 29 Dec, 2015, at 15:34, Jonathan Williamson <
> jonathan at cgcookie.com
> >>>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I quite like this plan. It may prove to be a bit difficult to keep
> >>>> track of the shifting meeting times, but if only joining two a month
> then
> >>>> it wouldn't be too bad.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It would certainly make it easier for a lot of people to join at
> least
> >>>> the one in their region.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm happy to chair the LA meeting.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jonathan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Here's a fun diagram comparing local times on 5 places in the
> world.
> >>>>>>> Easy to see how it's impossible to define a meeting time where
> >>>> everyone can attend.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> http://www.worldtimeserver.com/meeting-planner-times.aspx?&L0=US-CA&Day=29&Mon=12&Y=2015&L1=US-NY&L2=NL&L3=IN&L4=AU-NSW&L5=&L6=&L7=
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -Ton-
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> (And sorry for typos in my mail, I didn't check it well before
> >>> sending)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>> Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
> >>>>>>> Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
> >>>>>>> Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 29 Dec, 2015, at 13:14, Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If you look at the Developer Top 22 I posted, you can see that
> >>>> Blender lacks active contributors from the Americas... Canada, USA,
> >>> Centra
> >>>> and South America are not represented as much it could.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For that reason I would propse to test a new meeting schedule for
> >>>> 2016. A fun rotating schedule.
> >>>>>>>> At least try it a month!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The meeting concept is based on these simple assumptions:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> - Have less meetings, two per month should be enough to attend.
> >>>>>>>> - Cluster time zones in three sections - LA, Amsterdam, Sydney
> >>>>>>>> - For each time zone section, we organize one meeting per month
> at a
> >>>> fixed day at 10 AM.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> These 10 AM meetings would be:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> - LA: 9th of month
> >>>>>>>> - AMS: 18th of month
> >>>>>>>> - SYD: 27th of month.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> These times are fixed, local, and stay same independent of
> daylight
> >>>> savings. Attendants in other timezones will have to check what's the
> >>>> matching local time in order to attend.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For January, the timing table then looks as follows:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jEooASg01BMply2DrI19-KDo62YQ4c_UAboH8-1oCMQ/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I would also like to invite one of the active Americans to chair
> the
> >>>> monthly "LA time" meeting.
> >>>>>>>> Jonathan Williamson, would you be available? I can backup :)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -Ton-
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>> Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
> >>>>>>>> Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
> >>>>>>>> Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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