[Bf-committers] Revising the testbuild branch

[Sergey Sharybin]

It _had been_ discussed several times at least. Starting from discussion in
#lbendercoders between me, Dan, Bastien and even Ton. Then once it was all
set up (and i believe some discussion happened in the ML as well). Once all
the changes to the infrastructure were done it was announced in the ML:
http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2014-July/043948.html In
such a situation it's real weird to have a post-factum "it should have
never been done this way".

As an addition to the previous suggestion:
- We can as well just put a REAL HUGE BANNER on top of the experimental
builds just to stress once again that they're experimental if it'll be
considered useful to have those builds listed to public.
- We can rename "testbuild" to something like  "devbuild" (as
developer-build) or "experimental" to prevent possible confusion with the
testbuilds being done as a part of the release build.

On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org> wrote:

> Hi Bastien,
>
> Sorry, I've asked around and had the impression Sergey added the feature
> on builder.blender.org.
>
> The fact that building branches on buildbot is useful is not disputed.
> It's just not acceptable to offer an official build for download on a
> popular page on blender.org, with unknown patches or branches applied.
>
> Let's just keep the lines short and discuss decisions like this together
> well?
>
> Laters,
>
> -Ton-
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
> Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
> Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
>
>
>
> On 11 Oct, 2014, at 18:24, Bastien Montagne wrote:
>
> > I’m not happy at all with both the decision and the way it was taken.
> > Fyi, I was the one who spent a fair amount of time some months agon
> > setting this up, and I think it has proven to be really really useful
> > for all wip projects around.
> >
> > Further more, I do not see any reason to just cut this out out of the
> > blue, there was no urgency at all here. And I do not even really
> > understand the root of the issue, imho people who are not able to make a
> > distinction between builds tagged as 'official' and builds tagged as
> > 'testbuild' have nothing to do on builder.b.o.
> >
> > But even though, imho it would have been much nicer to ask to add some
> > way to delete testbuilds from the server, again see no urgency at all
> > here that could justify this discontinuation.
> >
> > Adding back build of all branches will just create much much more mess,
> > we won’t gain anything. Oh, and people that cannot understand what
> > 'testbuild' means won’t be able either to distinguish from master and
> > branches builds - even less I’d say.
> >
> > Very disapointed here!
> > Bastien
> >
> > Le 11/10/2014 15:59, Ton Roosendaal a écrit :
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I've asked Sergey to disable the testbuild branch from automatic
> building.
> >> This is currently leading to a confusing situation. People have no idea
> what's the code that is in it. It's even being used to apply patches from
> the tracker on it. This information is invisible for our website visitors.
> >>
> >> Worse is that visitors think it's the official release test build, and
> not a testing branch for coders only.
> >>
> >> We should do this better communicated. Can we just back to the old
> option that you can build branches?
> >> This way that branch build gets properly named and timestamped.
> >>
> >> The only problem is that too many builds might flood the bot's list of
> builds. It shouldn't be too hard to make a delete button on that page for
> old ones (for admins)?
> >>
> >> Laters,
> >>
> >> -Ton-
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------------
> >> Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
> >> Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
> >> Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
> >>
> >>
> >>
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With best regards, Sergey Sharybin