[Bf-committers] Modernizing Video Sequencer Editor UI

[David McSween]

Paulo, these panels make sense for available audio strips, would the state
of able/disable change when scrubbing?
Depending on what is available at each frame? Strip control is a better
than my idea of channel volume control.

A master gain/volume variable would be useful to change all relative values
at once, this would very good for animators who want to isolate voice
performance strips from music or foley effects.
Suggestion:
I wonder if this could be achieved with a gang or linked switch? That is a
parent or driver that alters all volumes in a relative fashion?
Issue:
Audio is logarithmic and small changes to one strip may not retain relative
loudness to others.
So I guess that may not work.

Is there room for a Master Volume control?

Also the panning value is in the right spot, could this be amended in the
regular audio strip panel?



On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Paulo José Amaro <pauloup at gmail.com> wrote:

> David, would your idea be some kind of Volume Mixer, but without a master
> (yet, I hope)?
>
> Like this: http://bit.ly/1j31EtA
>
> It would be better to disable not available strips at the current time, so
> the user has better feedback about what strip to change:
> http://bit.ly/1j31GSd
>
> And we can go on and to add the left options Mute and Pan:
> http://bit.ly/1j31IJS
>
> I think it could help a lot the Meta volume issue. A master volume control
> also would be useful. What do you think?
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:22 PM, David McSween <3pointedit at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > The addition of audio controls for Meta strip is a 'very' useful addition
> > for video (synced) editing. That is, the ability to easily move video
> with
> > related audio (in sync) around the timeline.
> >
> > Of course this is the suggested process for 'sync' editing in the VSE.
> But
> > it is quite hard to trim the audio, embedded in a meta strip, by
> animating
> > it's volume in relation to the previous shots.
> > You must edit a meta strip and when you do you loose all reference to the
> > other media and must use markers, this becomes messy very quickly.
> >
> > This one change is very important for non-animation or mixed media
> editing
> > used in performance or drama work.
> >
> > However there is a drawback. How would you determine the correct audio to
> > apply a volume adjustment to?
> > Proposal:
> > Can I suggest that the tracks inside, that carry audio strips, be exposed
> > as a volume property? That way you could fade the right audio component
> up
> > or down without changing all of them at the same time.
> >
> > D
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Paulo José Amaro <pauloup at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > David, I'm glad to know you like it. I tried to find a UI mailing list,
> > but
> > > I had no luck. If there's any place most appropriated to discuss this
> > > topic, please let me know.
> > >
> > > *1 - I agree with you, but the Jump To Cut addon has too much options
> > that
> > > should be revised before inclusion to avoid cluttering the UI. Still
> > then,
> > > Multicam should (also) have these options because they relates with the
> > > workflow implied by it.
> > >
> > > *2 - I forgot to include Adjustment Layer, but now you've said, I check
> > up
> > > and currently it do have Trim options. In my proposal, these options
> > should
> > > be in the Strip tab and I'll update the proposal soon as I can. Thank
> you
> > > for pointing me about it.
> > >
> > > 3* - I agree that Pan should be better placed in the Strip tab, but
> it's
> > > not clear yet. I'll wait for more feedback before making this change.
> > >
> > > If you're talking about the Preview + Sequencer mode that mixes the
> strip
> > > and non strip options in the same panel, I think the Preview options
> > should
> > > be placed on their own tab. But it certainly deserves further
> > > investigation.
> > >
> > > Best regards!
> > > Paulo
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 5:02 AM, David McSween <3pointedit at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey Paulo, this looks like a great proposal but I wonder if this is
> the
> > > > right mailing list. Where can the UI team be contacted*?*
> > > >
> > > > *Quick response though:*
> > > > *1- The navigation tools from addon "Jump to Cut", should be VSE
> > timeline
> > > > generic tools instead of strip specific.*
> > > > *2- Adjustment Effect Strips should have Trim options (start/end
> frames
> > > > etc.) as they are not locked to parent strip length.*
> > > > *3- Audio strips have more than one function (volume), Pan at least
> > > should
> > > > appear with volume. Pitch could stay on the input tab.*
> > > >
> > > > *Improving user understanding is very important as the VSE is not
> like
> > > > other Non Linear Editors. But I wonder how your tabbed approach fits
> in
> > > the
> > > > preview window which also has a properties panel, which provides
> other
> > > non
> > > > strip specific functions (like proxy preview resolution, OpenGL
> etc.).*
> > > >
> > > > *Cheers*
> > > > *D*
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