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[Ton Roosendaal]

Hi Brecht,

> The names of the tools can be considered confusing, this is the
> reasoning behind it:
> http://www.quora.com/Phabricator/Why-is-the-Browse-feature-called-Diffusion-and-not-just-Browse

Honestly, after 10 lines of reading the reasoning there I already gave up.
My sincere hope is that we're not turning into a project that communicates like that.

This project (blender) should be accessible for people who also are NOT into daily hardcore development. We always benefited a lot from (technical) artist involvement.

So please design the system and UI with keeping other people in mind too?

-Ton-

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Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
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On 14 Nov, 2013, at 18:31, Brecht Van Lommel wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Erwin Coumans <erwin.coumans at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just some honest feedback:
>> 
>> I find it a very confusing page, all about Phabricator and not about
>> Blender,
>> why all the references to Phabricator? I don't care you are using
>> Phabricator,
>> but I do care about Blender.
> 
> I could only find mention of Phabricator on the website itself, which
> is the Phabricator repository. That will be moved below the Blender
> repositories when we have them all online. Is there something I'm
> missing? We are mentioning it in mails now to make it clear what we
> talk about, but once it's all running it shouldn't really matter.
> 
>> On the left bar, there is "Differential", "Maniphest", "Diffusion",
>> "Audit", "Feed",
>> weird names that require the user to read the explanation underneath to
>> understand what it is about.
> 
> The names of the tools can be considered confusing, this is the
> reasoning behind it:
> http://www.quora.com/Phabricator/Why-is-the-Browse-feature-called-Diffusion-and-not-just-Browse
> 
> We could change it, but in my opinion it's fine the way it is.
> "Differential", "Maniphest", "Diffusion" are the strangest I guess,
> but the descriptions below them are clear. Audit and Feed pretty
> literally describe what they are?
> 
>> And once you click on "Repository Browser", the first link points to the
>> Phabricator source tree.
>> I expect to find a direct link to the Blender BF main repo on the front
>> page on the left,
>> with instructions how to clone it in git. Instead, there is a lot of
>> nonsense and clutter (in my opinion).
>> 
>> I couldn't find a link to the main git Blender repo, only to addons and
>> translations, but I am not interested in those.
>> If I click in the middle of the page on BF Blender, and then "Blender
>> Repository", it ends up telling me "No such repository 'B'".
> 
> Not sure which nonsense or clutter you refer to, besides the Blender
> repository not being listed first? For me the things that are on the
> homepage are the things I use most as a developer, and for users there
> are links in the center for the typical things that they want to do.
> 
> Brecht.
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