[Bf-committers] Windows XP and the future of Blender

[Jürgen Herrmann]

Hi Ton,

Sounds reasonable. I'll have XP support back in by the end of next week.
Luckily it just a small change I'll have to do in my build environment.

/Jürgen 

Am 19.05.2013 um 12:49 schrieb Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org>:

> Hi,
> 
> The conclusions I would make is to keep XP supported for at least a year.
> MS drops it April 2014, let's review it then again.
> 
> Note that for OSX we already dropped 10.5, which is still about 3% of the visitors.
> 
> When it comes to very old hardware or graphics card we do have to accept limits too though... but for projects this year I don't see a huge problem really.
> 
> -Ton-
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
> Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
> Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 May, 2013, at 12:28, Ton Roosendaal wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> OK here are the others too, fun to see:
>> 
>> http://www.blender.org/bf/Browser_Linux_Analytics.pdf
>> http://www.blender.org/bf/Browser_OSX_Analytics.pdf
>> 
>> Browser type:
>> http://www.blender.org/bf/Browser_Analytics.pdf
>> 
>> -Ton-
>> 
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
>> Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
>> Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 May, 2013, at 12:22, Ton Roosendaal wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Here's the last month of Windows visitors for blender.org:
>>> http://www.blender.org/bf/Browser_OS_Analytics.pdf
>>> 
>>> One million visits, 70% win7, 14% XP still.
>>> 
>>> -Ton-
>>> 
>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>> Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
>>> Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
>>> Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 19 May, 2013, at 3:07, bjornmose wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well our statistics on world wide professionals ( using scientific 
>>>> measuring software )  says:
>>>> 
>>>> 10% win7, 50% win XP, very few vista  the remains  even older :)
>>>> and we do full support down to W2k. ( to Daniel  .. including Europe , 
>>>> USA  and former UDSSR )
>>>> How stupid is that to keep customers satisfied?
>>>> 
>>>> Dropping  Win8 support is no option, though  i hope it will be like 
>>>> ignoring 'vista' for good.
>>>> Says the next Win8 (X point anything internally ) will be as nice as Win 
>>>> 7 was .. plus providing some nice new features.
>>>> Please no OS  religions here, but fencing out XP users is suicide.
>>>> 
>>>> Am 17.05.2013 21:38, schrieb Damir Prebeg:
>>>>> My advance apologies for this... After a few days of painful experience I
>>>>> would strongly recommend dropping of Win8 support.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 17 May 2013 17:26, Daniel Genrich <daniel.genrich at gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> +1 for that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dropping Win XP would be too soon since many people from south america
>>>>>> and africa are still using Win XP.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 17.05.2013 15:25, schrieb Thomas Dinges:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> if we do that, we could only build 2 builds.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 32 bit: Compile with vc2008 for Windows XP and above
>>>>>>> 64 bit: Compile with vc2012 for Vista x64 and above
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We don't need x64 build for Windows XP, XP x64 is maybe used by 0.1%.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This way all OS / bit configs would be served, and we don't have big
>>>>>>> overhead.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 17.05.2013 15:14, schrieb Sergey Sharybin:
>>>>>>>> Also, we could do some "gradual" drop: meaning if vc2012's builds would
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> be able to run on XP, we could compile two versions of blender -- one
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> msvc2008 and other one with msvc2012. We did quite the same thing with
>>>>>>>> linux builds as well (building it against different libc version using
>>>>>>>> older and newer gcc versions).
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