[Bf-committers] Patch to add "Show/hide 3D Cursor" functionality

Sun Jun 9 20:00:16 CEST 2013

	If I could hide the cursor, I would want it to be hidden, not fixed at origin. I often use the cursor in render only mode without any problems.
	Fixing the cursor at origin would be basically "Disable Cursor" option... I think expected behavior of "Hide Cursor" is to hide the cursor like in render only mode.

On Sunday 09 June 2013 10:30:05 Jonathan Williamson wrote:
> The problem with simply "hiding" the cursor is that the user no longer
> knows where it's at and could run into problems like adding objects and
> having them 'randomly' positioned in the scene. I feel this would be an
> even greater cause for frustration than the actual cursor.
> 
> That being said, this issue could easily be resolved if hiding the cursor
> also always recentered at the scene origin.
> 
> Jonathan Williamson
> http://cgcookie.com
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Jürgen Herrmann <shadowrom at me.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Am 09.06.2013 um 18:33 schrieb Jonathan Williamson <jonathan at cgcookie.com
> > >:
> >
> > > Like Ton said, I don't think there's anyway you can hide the 3D cursor
> > > without first putting in alternate functionality for all things that use
> > > it, including adding objects, mesh spin tool, grease pencil cursor depth.
> > >
> > I think of hiding the cursor as in "it is there and active, but not shown"
> > Disabling the cursor would be hard, but telling OpenGL not to draw it
> > might be a bit easier.
> >
> > > Then also what do you with users that have "Zoom to cursor" set as a
> > > default?
> > This would work with my proposal, but it could be very confusing. In this
> > case I would suggest to unhide the cursor if a user switches to "zoom to
> > cursor" or if he is in this mode and zooms.
> > >
> > > I'm not opposed to having the ability to hide it, but I don't think it's
> > > nearly so simple as just "hiding" it
> > >
> > > On Sunday, June 9, 2013, Gavin Howard wrote:
> > >
> > >>     All,
> > >>     I say +1 to Jürgen's suggestion. I think hiding the cursor would be
> > >> incredibly useful in many cases. Having a button in the 3D View header,
> > as
> > >> well as a hotkey would be awesome. Also, using a LMB click to unhide it
> > (or
> > >> the hotkey) would be intuitive. Of course, this is coming from a user
> > who
> > >> is less a user than a developer. Take it for what it's worth.
> > >>     God Bless,
> > >>     Gavin Howard
> > >> On Jun 9, 2013 9:48 AM, "Jürgen Herrmann" <shadowrom at me.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> It would be nice to have a hotkey to hide the 3d cursor. It might be a
> > >>> good idea to unhide the cursor when the user  switches to another edit
> > >> mode.
> > >>>
> > >>> When hidden the cursor should stay in place so it is not accidentally
> > >>> moved to another position. An alternative would be to unhide the cursor
> > >>> when it is moved (for example by clicking LMB in object mode).
> > >>>
> > >>> No matter how it is done it should be completely intuitive for all
> > users.
> > >>>
> > >>> /Jürgen
> > >>>
> > >>> Am 09.06.2013 um 17:29 schrieb Sean Olson <seanolson at gmail.com>:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I am a big fan of the 3d cursor, but I frequently I do wish I could
> > >> hide
> > >>> it
> > >>>> as it is just distracting at times when I don't need it.  I would love
> > >> to
> > >>>> be able to turn it on/off manually just as I can with the
> > >>>> transform/rotate/scale widgets.  I do think this option should
> > probably
> > >>> be
> > >>>> on the bottom bar along with those widgets though, and not in the much
> > >>>> harder to access properties panel.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Additionally, we need to be careful with turning off the cursor in
> > >>> certain
> > >>>> modes.  Currently in paint mode the 3d cursor is used in the clone
> > >> tool.
> > >>>> So to always turn it off would be a  mistake.  A clone tool in sculpt
> > >> has
> > >>>> not been built, but it would be cool to have that functionality as
> > >> well,
> > >>>> which of course would use the 3d cursor.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -Sean
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Dima Glibitsky <dima.glib at gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I've made a poll
> > >>
> > http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?295865-Hiding-3D-cursor-use-cases-%28poll%29
> > >>>>> Most probably auto-hiding in some modes won't draw any objections,
> > >>>>> though I'm curious what the results of the poll turn out to be.
> > >>>>> I'll try to make a patch that hides 3D cursor based in Paint/Sculpt
> > >>>>> modes in the meantime :-)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> A lot of editing still depends on a 3d cursor to exist, hiding it
> > >>>>> completely is not good feature, unless it bypasses every call that
> > >> uses
> > >>> the
> > >>>>> 3d cursor.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> For us now, a useful hiding for 3d cursor is in special edit modes
> > >> like
> > >>>>> paint or sculpt (assuming it is not used).
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> -Ton-
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>> Ton Roosendaal  -  ton at blender.org   -   www.blender.org
> > >>>>>> Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute
> > >>>>>> Entrepotdok 57A  -  1018AD Amsterdam  -  The Netherlands
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 9 Jun, 2013, at 14:18, Dima Glibitsky wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi, thanks for the quick reply :)
> > >>>>>>> Perhaps the main question is, then, if there are any cases when
> > >> users
> > >>>>>>> want to hide the cursor in the Object mode. I'll try to ask that on
> > >>>>>>> the BlenderArtists.
> > >>>>>>> I can imagine that some CAD-like addons might use the option to
> > >>>>>>> disable the default cursor to display something more advanced
> > >> instead
> > >>>>>>> (e.g. local coordinate axes/planes). In this case, non-coders won't
> > >>>>>>> have to know about the existence of this setting.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jonathan Williamson
> > > http://cgcookie.com
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