[Bf-committers] Autokey and 3D viewport outline

[Daniel Salazar - 3Developer.com]

I would be very opposed to disabling auto-key on load, in the past it
was like that and resulted in lost work for animators all the time. If
an animator is activly working on a shot he should not have to
remember to activate autokey every time he/she goes for a coffee break
or switches files.

I think the way it is current is getting quite close to what it should
be. Maybe a bit of a stronger hint wont hurt but it's certainly more
flashy than a static icon on the timeline

Daniel Salazar
patazstudio.com


On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Nathan Vegdahl <cessen at cessen.com> wrote:
> Maybe we should take an entirely different approach to this.
>
> What if we just make auto-key settings not loaded from blend files by
> default?  That way people keep the auto-key prefs they're used to.  It
> doesn't seem like this is the kind of setting that makes sense to
> carry along with blend files anyway.  It's very specific to people's
> own workflows.
>
> Then there is no need for an indicator in the first place.
>
> --Nathan
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Nathan Vegdahl <cessen at cessen.com> wrote:
>>> It's fine to have an indicator that autokey is on,
>>> it just doesn't need to look as if something bad is happening.
>>
>> Just keep in mind that the original motivation of all of this was that
>> the auto-key toggle in the timeline was not visually obvious enough.
>>
>> In general, there is going to be a conflict between the purpose of the
>> feature and people who are annoyed by its non-subtley.  We already
>> have a subtle indicator: the auto-key toggle button.  The entire point
>> of this is to _not_ be subtle.
>>
>> (And incidentally, now that you mention it, I agree, red should be
>> reserved for errors.)
>>
>> --Nathan
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Brecht Van Lommel
>> <brechtvanlommel at pandora.be> wrote:
>>> It was made optional now in svn, but I think that does not really
>>> address the issue. It's fine to have an indicator that autokey is on,
>>> it just doesn't need to look as if something bad is happening. Red
>>> should be reserved for errors. There is no need for a warning/error
>>> here, just good feedback about what is happening.
>>>
>>> For example improve the blinking so that it's more like the report
>>> message blinking in the info header (which is better visible), show
>>> the autokey icon in the 3D view header or next to the object name,
>>> color the header a bit yellow, or show a report that X keyframes were
>>> inserted after transform is done. I don't know which combination works
>>> best but the red border is just too much and the current blinking is
>>> not very visible by itself.
>>>
>>> Brecht.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Francesco Siddi
>>> <francesco.siddi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> a new feature has recently been introduced in Blender: when Autokey is
>>>> turned on and some object/armature transformation is performed, every 3D
>>>> viewport gets a red outline and a message reminding the user of the fact
>>>> the a keyframe will be created at the end of the transformation.
>>>>
>>>> After talking with other users, it seems clear that this feature should at
>>>> least be optional, if not off by default. It's quite distracting to work
>>>> with a flashing outline all the time.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>> Francesco
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