[Bf-committers] Addon bug reports

mindrones mindrones at gmail.com
Tue Sep 20 13:37:23 CEST 2011


Hi!

Now that the new wiki has gone online, I can finally prepare the
addons bug tracker, it's there in my neverending todo since too much
time now!

I'll do it during this week (sorry for having blocked you guys on this one :)

Regards,
Luca



On 20 September 2011 12:37, Jonathan Smith <j.jaydez at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think it would be great to have a new tracker for addon bugs. I know there
> was one a _long_ time ago, but it didn't get much use (There was only ever a
> total of 10 bugs I think... including closed ones), which would explain why
> it got shut down.
>
> +1
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Nathan Vegdahl <cessen at cessen.com> wrote:
>
>> That sounds like a great plan to me. :-)
>> +1
>>
>> --Nathan
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Campbell Barton <ideasman42 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Nathan Vegdahl <cessen at cessen.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Hey everyone,
>> >> I am getting increasingly frustrated that Rigify bugs are being
>> >> reported as comments on the same damn bug report:
>> >>
>> http://projects.blender.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=469&aid=25546&group_id=153
>> >>
>> >> I notice that in all included Blender addons (including Rigify) there
>> >> is a "report a bug" link that points to an individual report such as
>> >> this, which I presume is what's causing users to simply append their
>> >> own bugs to this single bug report.  As a maintainer this is extremely
>> >> frustrating because it means I cannot manage Rigify's bug reports
>> >> properly (i.e. there are no real reports, just comments).
>> >>
>> >> I want to check if this is the intended behavior for users to take
>> >> when reporting addon bugs.  If not, then I will simply close the
>> >> report and include an explanation for them to file new reports for
>> >> their bugs.  On the other hand, if it is the intended behavior for
>> >> users to take... why?  It makes me far more apt to miss reports,
>> >> forget that I haven't already fixed something, etc.  And it is
>> >> hair-pullingly frustrating to not have the satisfaction of marking
>> >> something as fixed after I fix it.
>> >>
>> >> --Nathan V
>> >
>> > It is the intended behavior but I don't think it works well at all,
>> >
>> > I think this is how extensions were planned by extensions admins long
>> > before they were used for addons - guessing
>> >  - Nathan Letwory  / Luca Bonavita (mindrones) / Brendon Murphy
>> > (meta-androcto) ? --- not sure though.
>> >
>> > IMHO addons _as_ issues Its bad because...
>> > - You cant look at the list and pick a bug to fix.
>> > - You don't get a sense of which addons are buggy or which developers
>> > are not maintaining their work.
>> > - It discourages devs fixing bugs in other peoples addons because they
>> > have to look into the addon to find bugs.
>> > - Issues get mixed up - false alarms are mixed with real issues, no
>> > way to remove invalid comments.
>> > - You don't any get satisfaction from closing bug reports, or getting
>> > the tracker below 50 :D
>> >
>> > Discussed with Luca and we tentatively agreed to move to match
>> > bf-blender bug tracker style where each issue being a bug - but I'm
>> > not sure when of if this is planned - Luca didn't have time for it
>> > last we talked, so maybe others can arrange for this.
>> >
>> > Prefer we keep the wiki's as is (that works well), but have 1 tracker
>> > for extensions, starting new trackers is quite trivial (did this for
>> > BMesh) so we could start a new one, and make links in the interface go
>> > to the new tracker, then slowly move reports over from the existing
>> > tracker to the new one.
>> >
>> > I can do this if nobody else wants to but interested to hear from
>> > other addon admins/devs what they think of this first.
>> >
>> > - Campbell
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