[Bf-committers] Addon bug reports

Nathan Vegdahl cessen at cessen.com
Tue Sep 20 06:07:48 CEST 2011


That sounds like a great plan to me. :-)
+1

--Nathan


On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Campbell Barton <ideasman42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Nathan Vegdahl <cessen at cessen.com> wrote:
>> Hey everyone,
>> I am getting increasingly frustrated that Rigify bugs are being
>> reported as comments on the same damn bug report:
>> http://projects.blender.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=469&aid=25546&group_id=153
>>
>> I notice that in all included Blender addons (including Rigify) there
>> is a "report a bug" link that points to an individual report such as
>> this, which I presume is what's causing users to simply append their
>> own bugs to this single bug report.  As a maintainer this is extremely
>> frustrating because it means I cannot manage Rigify's bug reports
>> properly (i.e. there are no real reports, just comments).
>>
>> I want to check if this is the intended behavior for users to take
>> when reporting addon bugs.  If not, then I will simply close the
>> report and include an explanation for them to file new reports for
>> their bugs.  On the other hand, if it is the intended behavior for
>> users to take... why?  It makes me far more apt to miss reports,
>> forget that I haven't already fixed something, etc.  And it is
>> hair-pullingly frustrating to not have the satisfaction of marking
>> something as fixed after I fix it.
>>
>> --Nathan V
>
> It is the intended behavior but I don't think it works well at all,
>
> I think this is how extensions were planned by extensions admins long
> before they were used for addons - guessing
>  - Nathan Letwory  / Luca Bonavita (mindrones) / Brendon Murphy
> (meta-androcto) ? --- not sure though.
>
> IMHO addons _as_ issues Its bad because...
> - You cant look at the list and pick a bug to fix.
> - You don't get a sense of which addons are buggy or which developers
> are not maintaining their work.
> - It discourages devs fixing bugs in other peoples addons because they
> have to look into the addon to find bugs.
> - Issues get mixed up - false alarms are mixed with real issues, no
> way to remove invalid comments.
> - You don't any get satisfaction from closing bug reports, or getting
> the tracker below 50 :D
>
> Discussed with Luca and we tentatively agreed to move to match
> bf-blender bug tracker style where each issue being a bug - but I'm
> not sure when of if this is planned - Luca didn't have time for it
> last we talked, so maybe others can arrange for this.
>
> Prefer we keep the wiki's as is (that works well), but have 1 tracker
> for extensions, starting new trackers is quite trivial (did this for
> BMesh) so we could start a new one, and make links in the interface go
> to the new tracker, then slowly move reports over from the existing
> tracker to the new one.
>
> I can do this if nobody else wants to but interested to hear from
> other addon admins/devs what they think of this first.
>
> - Campbell
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