[Bf-committers] requesting reversion of 41550 despite downsides

Daniel Salazar - 3Developer.com zanqdo at gmail.com
Sun Nov 27 02:58:38 CET 2011

I agree, brought this into attention a few days ago and was told
gently to piss off

Daniel Salazar

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Dalai Felinto <dfelinto at gmail.com> wrote:
> I will second that. Not only because of the functionality (I don't remember
> when I last used it) but more because of the attitude.
> Sure we all want a bug free blender. But if we follow this line of thought
> so many things in Blender wouldn't be there.
> As a quick example, how many people have been using Cycles from day one for
> 'top quality' commercial projects? A lot, really a lot. Enough to make us
> proud of our quirks and tohupuu-like features.
> Maybe it's time to bring tohupuu back?
> Kind regards,
> Dalai
> 2011/11/26 Bassam Kurdali <bassam at urchn.org>
>> Hi all,
>> http://projects.blender.org/scm/viewvc.php?view=rev&root=bf-blender&revision=41550
>> removes 'partially working' functionality from blender. And breaks
>> stnndard workflow for facial rigging. In the past even though this
>> feature had problems, It was still used by many to create symetrical
>> shapes; some points about this:
>> -after mirror modifier has been applied
>> -symmetric; vertex groups will be later used as masks for left and right
>> side.
>> -working on only one half of the shape is no good, you need to see the
>> total symmetric one, and use the vertex groups to blend, otherwise, you
>> get bad blends of left and right.
>> -working point by point really, really kills when doing shapekeys.
>> Rigging already takes too long.
>> this feature/workflow is present in almost any animation application.
>> Simply removing it from blender is, well, a bit a extreme in my opinion.
>> usually if you avoided crossing the mirror line with the proportional
>> circle you were pretty safe; weird things only happened close to the
>> line, at which point we turned it off. This was better than what we have
>> now: not having it all.
>> Can we have it back? pretty please? I know custom builds are possible,
>> but... if we want remove partially buggy features from blender, we'd end
>> up removing most of the program ;) - we have transform / offsets that
>> break in many 'corner cases' , drivers that don't update (due to missing
>> dependency graph fixes), python bugs, etc. The reaction isn't to remove
>> transform/drivers/python from blender - oh, and please, don't take that
>> as a suggestion ;)
>> cheers
>> Bassam
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