[Bf-committers] Tool Shelf Toggling On/Off Tab Mockup

[michael williamson]

Sadly there's no key to restore a minimised header! (they're all to easy 
to close when using a tablet with no way to restore in the cycles 
branch! (for headers I'd like to see the old 2.49 way and disable 
minimising them....)

ON TOPIC,
I'd prefer tool props to be its own panel.... it's too small when at the 
bottom of the toolshelf  I always use F6 in preference....

The toolshelf itself is invaluable in paint, sculpt etc but something I 
don't use ever when modelling... the operator panel on the other hand is 
something I'd very much like to have on screen all the time when 
modelling but hardly ever when painting!

  I only mention to illustrate that people are different and like 
different things and a flexible UI should accommodate ;-)


On 13/06/11 10:01, M.G. Kishalmi wrote:
> I like how Brecht solved this in the cycles branch:
>   he removed the (+) icons all together.
>
> there are keys for props [N] and tools [T]
>   and menu entries (in view) for all 3.
> maybe we can simply add a key for tool-props? suggestion: [ALT]+[N]
>
> or maybe.. don't allow the tool-props to be hidden at all?
>   just find a way to have it sit there at the top/bottom of the tools nicely.
>
> cheers,
>   mario
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Jonathan Smith<j.jaydez at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> You are probably right, using a lot of space doesn't seem to be the best
>> answer.. back to drawing board.
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Jim Williams<sphere1952 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> I'd agree.  Find ways to use less real estate, not more.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Aurel W.<aurel.w at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I think that this would be rather unpractical, it takes way to much
>>>> visual space for what it represents. If i want to collapse those
>>>> panels, i want them gone, not taking a lot of space on the screen like
>>>> those huge buttons.
>>>>
>>>> Blenders gui already got way too unefficient in 2.5, especially when
>>>> it comes to, space needed for certain gui elements and panels.
>>>>
>>>> aurel
>>>>
>>>> On 12 June 2011 13:28, Jonathan Smith<j.jaydez at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>> I have written up a mockup/proposal on a different way to do the closing
>>> and
>>>>> opening of the Tool Shelf and Properties Shelf UI, other than using the
>>>>> little plus icons, on my talk page.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wiki.blender.org/index.php?title=User_talk:JayDez
>>>>>
>>>>> I am, unfortunately, not a good enough coder to actually implement this,
>>> so
>>>>> I'm just putting it out there as an idea, either for another coder to
>>>>> implement, or just to promote discussion about the way this works, since
>>> I
>>>>> don't think that it is done very well in the current version of Blender.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any comments on or critiques of the mock up would be welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Jonathan
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