[Bf-committers] Makefile support

[Campbell Barton]

Hi Pete, the change from 2.49 to 2.5x is quite big, now blender can
install files in /usr/shared, home directory is layout is different,
python 3.1 etc.
Id expect the port would need non-trivial updates for 2.5x
irrespective of build system.

Arch linux's package also will need updating, since there are spec
files for FreeBSD and Arch available I don't think its a big deal.

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:39 AM, pete larabell <xgl.asyliax at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Campbell,
>
> How would getting rid of Makefiles affect Blender's ability to exist in the
> FreeBSD ports tree?  Currently the tree uses make. I use cmake on FreeBSD to
> build all the time without trouble, and haven't built Blender from the ports
> tree since 2.49 was new. BUT, I would be a little sad to see Blender be
> forever removed from the ports tree. :(
>
> That being said, if the BF finds it better for the overall good of Blender,
> I'm for it.
>
> Cheers,
> Pete
>
> p.s. - Jaevixa says "Hi!"
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Campbell Barton <ideasman42 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> to summarize reasons to kick nan-makefiles.
>>
>> - people downloading the source will see a makefile and type "make"
>> thinking they will get a build. (Make on linux is currently broken for
>> me, apparently its broken on mac too).
>> - threaded builds error out, make -j6 quits almost instantly (lots of
>> people have multi-cpus these days).
>> - its slow
>> - no active developers use it (afaik)
>> - it blocks cmake's in source builds.
>> - its Unix only, where CMake & SCons are cross platform.
>>
>> For those who find the cmake's makefiles too verbose.
>> ./build_files/cmake/example_scripts/make_quiet.sh
>>
>> For those who used 'make quicky'
>> ./build_files/cmake/example_scripts/make_quicky.py
>>
>> - Campbell
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Aurel W. <aurel.w at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > some might say, that more available ways for building blender, might
>> > solve some problems on unusual platforms and systems. I currently use
>> > blender on rather strange systems (like clusters), very old enterprise
>> > linux distributions, etc.
>> >
>> > But I would have never made use of makefiles, even when i run into
>> > problems with cmake or scons. I can't think of any important reasons,
>> > not to maintain them any longer.
>> >
>> > However, having some choices when it comes to the build system is
>> > great. So at the moment it would be great to still maintain cmake and
>> > also scons and not to support just a single one.
>> >
>> > aurel
>> >
>> >
>> > On 16 January 2011 19:51, Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org> wrote:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> I already gave up on Makefiles for OSX a month ago or so... it was
>> >> giving me inpredictable instable builds, and trying to figure out why
>> >> I gave up after a day.
>> >>
>> >> It seems to me it's still used by a couple of people here. I'd like to
>> >> know if there's - apart from personal taste - there's important
>> >> reasons to keep supporting it? The system is close to collapse under
>> >> its own weight, seems to me. :)
>> >>
>> >> Let me confirm that switching to CMake was painless and quick and it
>> >> builds faster than ever. I'm not totally happy with the noisy colorful
>> >> prints of cmake, but I'm quite sure that's a matter of time to get
>> >> solved too.
>> >>
>> >> Obviously; if we remove makefiles from svn, it'll allow "in source"
>> >> builds for cmake.
>> >>
>> >> -Ton-
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Ton Roosendaal  Blender Foundation   ton at blender.org    www.blender.org
>> >> Blender Institute   Entrepotdok 57A  1018AD Amsterdam   The Netherlands
>> >>
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- Campbell