[Bf-committers] Proposal: to remove the TexFace options

[Dalai Felinto]

Hi Carsten,
>"- ObColor: I think I used it many times for changing the Mesh color with"

As far as I know you can't change the Mesh color, but only the object color
with this. The difference is that it can be unique per objects sharing the
same mesh and material.

ObColor works and will keep working. The question I was bringing is the
option ObColor in the TexFace. I would assume this option allows part of the
mesh to use ObColor and part to ignore. However, as I said in the proposal,
I couldn't make it work (user-wise). I either have the entire mesh with
ObColor or without.

>"- Maybe it is a bit more work to need materials for all faces which need
>a different "Face Mode", since now it is easy, just select one or more
>faces, set Face Mode and then Copy Mode."

The workflow with materials is similar. Add multiple materials for the
obejct (in the material slot) select the material you want, select the faces
you want and click assign. The option to "Select" the faces of a specific
material is even better than with TexFace because you can actually see the
faces that share the same properties (i.e. material).

>So I think it have to be possible
>to show all the textures in GLSL when following is meet:
>- Object has a Material,
>- "Face Textures" in Options-Panel is ON
Agree with that here. Actually I consider this more to be a bug than a
design. Brecht would know better. Have you consider adding this to the
tracker? Personally I would love if GLSL could work without materials using
TexFace, but maybe that's me being lazy to add "dumb" materials.

Thanks,
Dalai

2011/2/3 Carsten Wartmann <cw at blenderbuch.de>

> Am 03.02.2011 21:56, schrieb Dalai Felinto:
> > Dear developers and users,
> >
> > " Tex Face is part of Blender original design 15 years ago. The
> > functionality it brought to the Blender Game Engine is still useful
> > nowadays. However its design hasn't changed and it lacks integration with
> > other parts of Blender. This proposal is centered on moving the working
> > functionalities as sub-options for the Material and remove deprecated
> ones."
> > http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Dfelinto/TexFace
>
> Hi,
>
> for the most I can overlook now (its late here) I am fine with it.
>
> There are two points where I have some worries (maybe because I need to
> think a bit more):
>
> - ObColor: I think I used it mayn times for changing the Mesh color with
> the ObCol Ipo, even making things transparent worked this way. However,
> having the Texture Face Mode become more and more obsolete it is maybe
> not of much use nowadays? I think in Multitexture (not sure here) and
> GLSL it is possible to animate the color directly without ObCol.
>
> - Maybe it is a bit more work to need materials for all faces which need
> a different "Face Mode", since now it is easy, just select one or more
> faces, set Face Mode and then Copy Mode.
>
> There is also another thing I always hated for GLSL Materials: It is
> much more complicated to have a Mesh with multiple textures than with
> Texture Face. In UV Image Editor you map several textures to several
> faces, in Multitexture or Texture Face they are shown in the BGE. In
> GLSL you need to assign several Materials to the several faces to get
> the same result as in the other modes. So I think it have to be possible
> to show all the textures in GLSL when following is meet:
>
> - Object has a Material,
> - "Face Textures" in Options-Panel is ON
>
> That would be a great help.
>
> Cheers,
> Carsten
>
>
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