[Bf-committers] Why has "CTRL y" been removed from blender ?

[Ton Roosendaal]

Hi all,

I'm probably violating any marketing convention now. Nothing to hide  
really! :)

Google analytics stats for past year:
http://www.blender.org/bf/stats/www.blender.org-countries.pdf
http://www.blender.org/bf/stats/www.blender.org-lang.pdf
http://www.blender.org/bf/stats/www.blender.org-OS.pdf
http://www.blender.org/bf/stats/www.blender.org-browsers.pdf
http://www.blender.org/bf/stats/www.blender.org-screen.pdf

This is only for the www.blender.org typo3 cms, not all the other  
b.org sites.

BTW: The screen resolutions are horrible! Get bigger ones!

-Ton-

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Ton Roosendaal  Blender Foundation   ton at blender.org    www.blender.org
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On 17 Apr, 2011, at 17:18, Martin Poirier wrote:

> To put things in perspective, I've asked Ton on IRC.
>
> The last official numbers for downloads on blender.org are from  
> 2008-2009, so it should have gone significantly up by now.
>
> It was 3.4M downloads over 12 months.
>
> Recently, we typically get a quarter of a million in the week of a  
> release.
>
> And that's for the main mirror only.
>
> Martin
>
> --- On Sun, 4/17/11, Jass <gaia.clary at machinimatrix.org> wrote:
>
>> From: Jass <gaia.clary at machinimatrix.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Why has "CTRL y" been removed from  
>> blender ?
>> To: "bf-blender developers" <bf-committers at blender.org>
>> Received: Sunday, April 17, 2011, 10:57 AM
>> I can second this with some
>> statistics from the Machinimatrix.
>> All our users are effectively from the Metaverse and we see
>> that many of
>> them are "non professional" (whatever that means)
>> end-users:
>>
>> - 500 downloads/month of our customized binary blender-2.49
>> distribution
>> - 10000 unique users per month
>> - 30000 page hits per month.
>> - 7500  Video downloads per month (basic 3D-content
>> creation)
>>
>> I have no comparison so i do not know if this is just
>> peanuts or
>> significant numbers. I am curious about the statistics from
>> blender.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Gaia
>>
>> Am 17.04.2011 16:16, schrieb Jim Williams:
>>> I'm not inclined to see Maya et. al. as THE
>> MARKET.  I think
>>> the 3D virtual reality environments are probably
>> already a larger
>>> market for Blender, if a currently largely invisible
>> one.
>>>
>>> Certainly, if Blender is to ever have a really huge
>> user base
>>> it will be in the Metaverse.  This is the place
>> where even
>>> end-users would have some sort of interest in using a
>> 3D
>>> modelling/animation program and have some sort of
>> skill
>>> in moving about in three dimensions.  All the
>> other environments
>>> are mass media with very small actual user
>> communities.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Jass<gaia.clary at machinimatrix.org>
>> wrote:
>>>> As a tutorial maker and i have to stick with the
>> defaults because that is
>>>> the only reliable way to go. (Forcing users to
>> install a customized
>>>> interface
>>>> to rework the tutorials would be very wrong in my
>> opinion) I agree that
>>>> aligning blender to other tools in the same market
>> is a good decision.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand (as already mentioned before)
>> both versions of redo
>>>> assignment seem to be "commonly used" and its not
>> just a difference
>>>> in the target market but also a difference in the
>> operating system.
>>>> For example  OSX seems to not support ctrl+y
>> at all (even not on firefox).
>>>>
>>>> I still would prefer to see ctrl+y added to the
>> defaults. But if there
>>>> is no chance
>>>> to get both standards supported with blender then
>> keeping ctrl+shift+z as
>>>> the default seems the best choice to me.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Gaia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 17.04.2011 10:32, schrieb Matt Ebb:
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Damir
>> Prebeg<blend.factory at gmail.com>
>>   wrote:
>>>>>> Again, as I've said, CTRL+SHIFT+Z is
>> perfect for standard US keyboard
>>>>>> users. For the rest of us (or at least
>> users of QWERTZ) it's not. But
>>>>>> according your responses I see that we'll
>> have to change that
>>>>>> individually.
>>>>> No shortcut organisation will be ergonomic for
>> all keyboard layouts -
>>>>> there will always be someone who finds it
>> inconvenient. As a lowest
>>>>> common denominator blender is designed for use
>> with a US keyboard -
>>>>> for others, that's precisely what having
>> customisable shortcut keys is
>>>>> for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
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