[Bf-committers] Why has "CTRL y" been removed from blender ?

[Martin Poirier]

To put things in perspective, I've asked Ton on IRC.

The last official numbers for downloads on blender.org are from 2008-2009, so it should have gone significantly up by now. 

It was 3.4M downloads over 12 months.

Recently, we typically get a quarter of a million in the week of a release.

And that's for the main mirror only.

Martin

--- On Sun, 4/17/11, Jass <gaia.clary at machinimatrix.org> wrote:

> From: Jass <gaia.clary at machinimatrix.org>
> Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Why has "CTRL y" been removed from blender ?
> To: "bf-blender developers" <bf-committers at blender.org>
> Received: Sunday, April 17, 2011, 10:57 AM
> I can second this with some
> statistics from the Machinimatrix.
> All our users are effectively from the Metaverse and we see
> that many of
> them are "non professional" (whatever that means)
> end-users:
> 
> - 500 downloads/month of our customized binary blender-2.49
> distribution
> - 10000 unique users per month
> - 30000 page hits per month.
> - 7500  Video downloads per month (basic 3D-content
> creation)
> 
> I have no comparison so i do not know if this is just
> peanuts or
> significant numbers. I am curious about the statistics from
> blender.
> 
> Cheers,
> Gaia
> 
> Am 17.04.2011 16:16, schrieb Jim Williams:
> > I'm not inclined to see Maya et. al. as THE
> MARKET.  I think
> > the 3D virtual reality environments are probably
> already a larger
> > market for Blender, if a currently largely invisible
> one.
> >
> > Certainly, if Blender is to ever have a really huge
> user base
> > it will be in the Metaverse.  This is the place
> where even
> > end-users would have some sort of interest in using a
> 3D
> > modelling/animation program and have some sort of
> skill
> > in moving about in three dimensions.  All the
> other environments
> > are mass media with very small actual user
> communities.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Jass<gaia.clary at machinimatrix.org> 
> wrote:
> >> As a tutorial maker and i have to stick with the
> defaults because that is
> >> the only reliable way to go. (Forcing users to
> install a customized
> >> interface
> >> to rework the tutorials would be very wrong in my
> opinion) I agree that
> >> aligning blender to other tools in the same market
> is a good decision.
> >>
> >> On the other hand (as already mentioned before)
> both versions of redo
> >> assignment seem to be "commonly used" and its not
> just a difference
> >> in the target market but also a difference in the
> operating system.
> >> For example  OSX seems to not support ctrl+y
> at all (even not on firefox).
> >>
> >> I still would prefer to see ctrl+y added to the
> defaults. But if there
> >> is no chance
> >> to get both standards supported with blender then
> keeping ctrl+shift+z as
> >> the default seems the best choice to me.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Gaia
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 17.04.2011 10:32, schrieb Matt Ebb:
> >>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Damir
> Prebeg<blend.factory at gmail.com> 
>   wrote:
> >>>> Again, as I've said, CTRL+SHIFT+Z is
> perfect for standard US keyboard
> >>>> users. For the rest of us (or at least
> users of QWERTZ) it's not. But
> >>>> according your responses I see that we'll
> have to change that
> >>>> individually.
> >>> No shortcut organisation will be ergonomic for
> all keyboard layouts -
> >>> there will always be someone who finds it
> inconvenient. As a lowest
> >>> common denominator blender is designed for use
> with a US keyboard -
> >>> for others, that's precisely what having
> customisable shortcut keys is
> >>> for.
> >>>
> >>> Matt
> >>>
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