[Bf-committers] Geometry in Compositor or Quadrangulation???

[pete larabell]

Hello,

Can someone tell me where to find the rules for what can and cant be
posted on blenderartists?

I'm trying to post an explanation of my decision in the forum but my
post keeps getting denied saying it either contains URLs (which it
doesn't) or contains forbidden words (which would confuse me as I
didn't use anything *bad* lol)

Is mentioning the word NaN fobidden?? :)

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org> wrote:
> Hi Pete,
>
> Thanks for your cogent decison :)
>
> Daniel: Polls are typically just biased, manipulative and populistic.
> That's not how I want to work here either.
>
> Tom: I would appreciate it if people don't claim to know what "the
> majority" wants, or speak on their behalf.
>
> -Ton-
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Ton Roosendaal  Blender Foundation   ton at blender.org    www.blender.org
> Blender Institute   Entrepotdok 57A  1018AD Amsterdam   The Netherlands
>
> On 11 Apr, 2011, at 16:23, pete larabell wrote:
>
>> Hi all!
>>
>> I now (after seeing poll) completely understand that the auto-retopo
>> is what more people that were voting want to see.
>>
>> However...
>>
>> In my efforts to better understand Blender's mesh/data representation,
>> I feel that doing an "easy" 3d_to_2d rasterizer for compo. tools would
>> be better for me to start with.
>>
>> I don't believe doing the compo. part will take longer than a week,
>> and it'd sure help me to get a better idea of how Blender stores data.
>>
>> After 2 decades of graphics programming I don't feel that either
>> project is "outside of my ability" to do, but I am still somewhat new
>> to Blender's codebase.
>>
>> Implementation of the Double Edged Matte node took 1 day, and that was
>> my first time ever coding for Blender. Maybe I'm wrong, the mask
>> rasterizer could end up taking longer than 1 week, but I really doubt
>> it.
>>
>> As soon as I have that working correctly, I will switch development
>> over to an implementation of the greedy mixed int. quad. retopo
>> system.
>>
>> ** in reply to the widget idea **
>> I do think that's a great idea, I will get it working as a node first,
>> then let someone more familiar with the other areas of blender get the
>> code working in the other areas. If nobody picks it up and gets it to
>> a good workflow state, then perhaps I shall take a look at it after
>> the retopo.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Daniel Salazar - 3Developer.com
>> <zanqdo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Pete I tough you where already working on the geometry node? What
>>> happened?
>>>
>>> This is a disappointing way of measuring the development priorities.
>>> Why not asking in a BlenderArtists poll if they prefer an "improved
>>> DAG" or if they rather prefer a "Realistic Spit Simulator!" (insert
>>> awesome promotional videos from other software packages). If this was
>>> the way we steer development I'd just loose all hope in improving
>>> workflows and tools for specialized communities like the growing VFX
>>> community in Blender. Do a google search for "blender rotobezier" to
>>> see how much real interest from VFX artists is there.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> Daniel Salazar
>>> 3Developer.com
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Tom M <letterrip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Did a poll at blenderartists.org
>>>>
>>>> http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?214657-fast-automatic-retopologizing-or-better-masking-tool-for-the-compositor-foe-live-film
>>>>
>>>> So no need to reply on list as to preference - discussion and voting
>>>> can take place there.
>>>>
>>>> LetterRip
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Tom M <letterrip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> For the artists - this image will make more sense to them, then the
>>>>> technical name of the process
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www-i8.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/typo3temp/pics/dc5508c320.png
>>>>>
>>>>> LetterRip
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Tom M <letterrip at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:17 PM, pete larabell <xgl.asyliax at gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, what I'd like to ask is:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Given that it would probably not be best to try two additions
>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>> same time... which one is is more desired in blender first?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More than 90% of Blender artists use the modeling tools, less
>>>>>> than 1%
>>>>>> currently use the compositor for doing masking and other tools for
>>>>>> compositing of live action footage..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the user view would be pretty overwhelmingly for the 'mixed
>>>>>> integer
>>>>>> quadrangulator'  (although to them it would be called automatic
>>>>>> retopology).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LetterRip
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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