[Bf-committers] scons/install stale files problem.

[Martin Poirier]

Blender on windows already supports having the .blender folder in different locations outside of the install folder, regardless of the build engine used.

That's not a new thing and not a big issue.

Martin

--- On Sat, 2/13/10, joe <joeedh at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: joe <joeedh at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] scons/install stale files problem.
> To: "bf-blender developers" <bf-committers at blender.org>
> Received: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 6:21 PM
> I wasn't implying we should keep old
> scripts around.  Simply that you
> shouldn't play around so freely with the behavior of build
> systems
> like this, at least not without thorough testing :)
> 
> IMHO it should not use the $HOME directory unless your
> explicitly
> making a release package.
> 
> Joe
> 
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Campbell Barton <ideasman42 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > This is whats happening on linux/unix for years with
> blender 2.4x, if
> > ~/.blender is defined, maybe we switch to
> ~/blender-2.5.x in future,
> > this has been discussed in other posts.
> >
> > They can be made to co-exist pretty easy I think, just
> make
> > "$PWD/.blender" override "$HOME/.blender"
> >
> > I explained in the first post the problems with
> keeping old scripts around.
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 12:08 AM, joe <joeedh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> That would be bad, as it'd make different branches
> share the same
> >> .blender folder.
> >>
> >> Why are you messing with this?
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Campbell Barton
> <ideasman42 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Update: only remove the scripts dir now, not
> the entire install
> >>> folder, apparently gives troubles on windows,
> >>> We should still look into having a blender
> home on windows that isnt
> >>> related to the install dir, and making it
> usable (create on startup if
> >>> its not there for instance).
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 10:51 AM, joe <joeedh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> The install folder scons spits out is
> supposed to create/use a
> >>>> .blender folder in the same folder.
> >>>>
> >>>> Joe
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Campbell
> Barton <ideasman42 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>> to conclude this tedious topic I
> better give an update for those who
> >>>>> dont read the logs.
> >>>>> Discussed this with Brect (over lunch)
> and Martin (over IRC) and Both
> >>>>> agree this is best in the long run.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now the default scons behavior is to
> remove the install dir each time
> >>>>> so it always contains an up to date
> build, however Aligorith uses
> >>>>> scons for development on windows,
> which needs DLL's etc, so copying
> >>>>> each time isnt nice.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For this case I added
> WITHOUT_BF_OVERWRITE_INSTALL
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This also brought up the issue that on
> windows there isnt a ~/.blender
> >>>>> directory thats easy to access/create
> (I'm not clear on the details).
> >>>>> Would be good to have a home dir on
> windows too but thats another
> >>>>> topic.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:51 PM,
> Brecht Van Lommel <brecht at blender.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't think we should try to
> support people installing scripts there
> >>>>>> and try to make the build systems
> clever about this. These really are
> >>>>>> just standard building rules,
> don't work in directories or files that
> >>>>>> are autogenerated by the build
> system because any changes will get
> >>>>>> overwritten. If anyone wants to
> make this kind of unsupported usage
> >>>>>> more convenient I guess they can,
> but more important in my opinion is
> >>>>>> fixing the problem of outdated
> scripts, and getting loading scripts
> >>>>>> from the user directory to work
> properly.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Loading from the user directory
> seems to be suboptimal on Windows
> >>>>>> right now, the expected directory
> is this.
> >>>>>> C:\Documents and
> Settings\User\.blender\scripts
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That can be changed to this, and
> the folder can be created
> >>>>>> automatically on startup to make
> things easier.
> >>>>>> C:\Documents and
> Settings\User\Blender Foundation\Blender\scripts
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Brecht.
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>
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