[Bf-committers] Extrude Popup

[Martin Poirier]

Couple of things:

The Extrude operator in the tool shelf uses the menu because I forgot to change it. I'd probably set it with Extrude and Extrude Individual as two separate operators there (the equivalent of the E and Shift-E keys).

Extrude region from the menu not doing extrude along normals is also something that I'd like to fix. If you prefer this behavior, you can always remap the hotkey to "Extrude Region and Move" (mesh.extrude_region_move) instead of the "smart" extrude operator.

I would really expect power use to remap those to something that fits better their particular workflow instead of the defaults that should be made to be ok for everybody and not particular to somebody to the detriment of others.

Also, just a quick note that you can also press MMB to cancel a transform constraint, pressing C isn't the only way.

Martin

--- On Sat, 2/13/10, Charles Wardlaw <cwardlaw at marchentertainment.com> wrote:

> From: Charles Wardlaw <cwardlaw at marchentertainment.com>
> Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Extrude Popup
> To: "bf-blender developers" <bf-committers at blender.org>
> Received: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 10:30 AM
> Playing with it, I find I actually
> prefer the current popup's way of not snapping to the normal
> immediately when extruding edges and vertices.  I was
> in love with the feature yesterday, because it works very
> well, but since much of my modelling deals with retopology
> that's something that'd just get in the way.  So I'd
> prefer to not hit the C key after extruding, so that things
> with the new snapping lie on the surface immediately.
> 
> I think that there's still something to be worked out with
> regards to customizing workflow and making tools work the
> way we want, without code.
> ~ C
> 
> 
> On 2010-02-13, at 7:34 AM, Matt. D. wrote:
> 
> > Althought i welcome the changes made by Martin because
> every change in  
> > this area is welcome, showing you care about
> usability, but i think those  
> > nagging pop-ups should be handled in a different way.
> > Trying to be smart about what to do based on the users
> selection and mode  
> > the user is working in will just not work for
> different workflows.
> > While modeling there is very little chance that you
> want to  
> > extrude/delete/merge in an other way then the last
> time you did. For  
> > example, if i model a head. I am virtually always
> extruding in vertex  
> > select mode, i am virtually always deleting verts only
> when i delete  
> > something, and i virtually always merge at center
> because i do organic  
> > modeling at that time. This is the 'workflow' i am in.
> But if i where to  
> > model a building e.g. doing architectural modeling i
> may need the merge  
> > tool to do a merge at first/last to keep my walls
> symmetric, unless i am  
> > Guggenheim or some other artsy-fartsy architect :).
> You CAN NOT be smart  
> > about what i want to model! What my workflow is!
> Therefore i propose that  
> > those pop-ups be just the selectors of the mode i want
> the tool to operate  
> > in and the tool will always do the same action until i
> change to a  
> > different task in my workflow. Imagine a carpenter is
> done cutting his  
> > wood and now does some miter work using the same tool
> but in a different  
> > way. He would never change the setup of his saw
> between cuting/mitering  
> > for each peace he produces. Those tool mode changing
> pop-ups should be  
> > invoked with a modifier-key (Shift-E, Shift-M,
> Shift-Backspace, ...).
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