[Bf-committers] First pure Cocoa version ! [Fwd: Re: Finally did it]

[johnmadstone at yahoo.it]

Hi Campbell,

you misunderstood.

At the beginning of my email to the mailing list, I wrote:

"First of all, I have to say that, even if it is clear that I do not 
like GHOST, the point of the discussion is not if GHOST is good or bad."

Then, Campbell, the "Extreme Changes" that I mentioned to Damien are 
only my personal changes, since I already know that Blender Team does 
not like the idea to intervene in the GHOST/WM code.
And I perfectly understand the wish to keep Blender portability as 
easier as possible to maintain and debug.

Therefore you should not take my email as a critique to Blender Team 
work or decisions. It is matter for another discussion, after all.

> Hey Marco, from an outsider (as far as Mac's go), your email leaves me
> thinking...
> - Where is your plan (URL?)


There is no URL. Though, I was studying GHOST to find the best way to 
implement Cocoa part.
In his email Damien told me that our emails have been a great foundation 
for the implementation he is doing. But I did not quote Damien's email, 
since it was a private discussion.
Though, in our email exchange, I provided to Damien (and also other 
contacts interested in the project) UML diagrams of GHOST. I spent some 
time to create them and make them visually easy to understand. And they 
are (in my idea) a first step for planning.

> - Can you give some idea at what your 'Extreme Changes' are?
> - Is the current development so different from what you plan that it
> becomes horrible to refactor later?

To answer the last question, I have to repeat that my complain was not 
about GHOST it self.
My complain is about 2 other things:


First, it seems that Damien is in a hurry to finish the port. Ok! Great! 
But I cannot help him/you this way.

I spent some days to understand GHOST, prepare the diagrams (as a 
reference documentation for me and the others) and, finally, I started 
to code GHOST_WindowCocoa.

After that, I have been busy for 2-3 days (life/job). And Damien did 
everything without me.

Great. He is probably a good developer. But I got a total of 30 hours of 
work on GHOST for nothing.


The second reason for complain, is documentation.
If a developer writes no clear documentation about his code, it will be 
hard for other developers to keep in sync with his progress. Especially 
if the others have not much free time to spend on it.

Damien (in this case, Damien, but I had similar experiences many times) 
could have worked to make documentation for his code, while he was 
waiting for me to finish GHOST_WindowCocoa.


Marco Frisan, Triest